The US manages what the Luftwaffe never did
The US manages what the Luftwaffe never did
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bxlbaz

Original Poster:

383 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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The US has grounded all F35 planes, not even the Luftwaffe has that cunning plan, to sell the British military planes that can’t fly or fight
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Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Well, if an aircraft crashes and the reason isn't immediately apparent, this is the safe course of action.

This isn't the first time a fleet has been grounded.

So, childish comment.

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Yes - standard procedure - especially for a new type.

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

99 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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So what exactly is a "fuel tube" ?

Wonder if this is one of the 946 faults they haven't quite managed to "manage" away??


Buzz words to come...

Development. Testing. Long. Decades.







Edited by Kccv23highliftcam on Thursday 11th October 16:11

bxlbaz

Original Poster:

383 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Oh dear, note to self, only serious comments for the aviation experts amongst us.
It’s good to see that pomposity is alive and well in a very small part of the human race. I’m duly chastened.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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bxlbaz said:
Oh dear, note to self, only serious comments for the aviation experts amongst us.
It’s good to see that pomposity is alive and well in a very small part of the human race. I’m duly chastened.
You might want to reread your original post and ask yourself how you might come across to someone who doesn't know you.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
So what exactly is a "fuel tube" ?

Wonder if this is one of the 946 faults they haven't quite managed to "manage" away??


Buzz words to come...

Development. Testing. Long. Decades.







Edited by Kccv23highliftcam on Thursday 11th October 16:11
Just as a matter of interest, can you tell us what is your area of expertise in this world?

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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bxlbaz said:
Oh dear, note to self, only serious comments for the aviation experts amongst us.
It’s good to see that pomposity is alive and well in a very small part of the human race. I’m duly chastened.
On this forum we try to keep silly nonsense at bay. It's a bit of a refuge from the idiocy one comes across in the News and Lounge Forums.

People here, on the whole, tend to know what they are talking about.


Lurking Lawyer

4,535 posts

249 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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I suppose it could be semantics in the distinction between "pausing flying" and "grounding", but the MoD Twitter account is denying it's a fleet-wide grounding:

"Contrary to reports, all F-35 jets have not been grounded. We have paused some F-35 flying as a precautionary measure while we consider the findings of an ongoing enquiry. Flight trials from @HMSQnlz continue and the programme remains on schedule"

Better safe than sorry though, I suppose. It's not like teething problems in new technology is unheard of.

Shotgun Jon

257 posts

161 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Eric Mc said:
bxlbaz said:
Oh dear, note to self, only serious comments for the aviation experts amongst us.
It’s good to see that pomposity is alive and well in a very small part of the human race. I’m duly chastened.
On this forum we try to keep silly nonsense at bay. It's a bit of a refuge from the idiocy one comes across in the News and Lounge Forums.

People here, on the whole, tend to know what they are talking about.
Speak for yourself! biggrin

Cold

16,437 posts

114 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Lurking Lawyer said:
I suppose it could be semantics in the distinction between "pausing flying" and "grounding", but the MoD Twitter account is denying it's a fleet-wide grounding:

"Contrary to reports, all F-35 jets have not been grounded. We have paused some F-35 flying as a precautionary measure while we consider the findings of an ongoing enquiry. Flight trials from @HMSQnlz continue and the programme remains on schedule"

Better safe than sorry though, I suppose. It's not like teething problems in new technology is unheard of.
Yeah, but mine has pretty pictures attached. biggrin

The important sentence is the one stating that trials from HMSQnlz are carrying on as normal as that kind of refutes the whole "OMG the sky is falling in" rhetoric. HMSQnlz herself confirms that it's business as normal.




Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

99 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Cold said:
Lurking Lawyer said:
I suppose it could be semantics in the distinction between "pausing flying" and "grounding", but the MoD Twitter account is denying it's a fleet-wide grounding:

"Contrary to reports, all F-35 jets have not been grounded. We have paused some F-35 flying as a precautionary measure while we consider the findings of an ongoing enquiry. Flight trials from @HMSQnlz continue and the programme remains on schedule"

Better safe than sorry though, I suppose. It's not like teething problems in new technology is unheard of.
Yeah, but mine has pretty pictures attached. biggrin

The important sentence is the one stating that trials from HMSQnlz are carrying on as normal as that kind of refutes the whole "OMG the sky is falling in" rhetoric. HMSQnlz herself confirms that it's business as normal.



Really? I think MOD trumps qe2 flypro.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/mi...

And the bad news just keeps rolling in...the numbers go down the price goes up...the death spiral tightens...


https://thenewsrep.com/101359/air-force-admits-it-...

And even MORE bad news..MOD EXPECTING SEVERE CUTS....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/24/mi...

Not a good week for the programme..not a good week for UK mil either..

Ian Lancs

1,155 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
Really? I think MOD trumps qe2 flypro.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/11/mi...
Did you actually read the link??? Especially this bit "“F-35 flight trials from the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth are continuing "

aeropilot

39,802 posts

251 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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bxlbaz said:
Oh dear, note to self, only serious comments for the aviation experts amongst us.
It’s good to see that pomposity is alive and well in a very small part of the human race. I’m duly chastened.
Sarcastic humour doesn't always translate in the written word on a worldwide forum....which is what these things are for - hint, hint winklaughbiglaughhehe

Mave

8,216 posts

239 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Lurking Lawyer said:
I suppose it could be semantics in the distinction between "pausing flying" and "grounding", but the MoD Twitter account is denying it's a fleet-wide grounding.
You might consider it semantics, but "Grounding" and "pausing flying" are quite different - in the same way that having no MOT is different to having a warning light showing on your dashboard.

Hard-Drive

4,275 posts

253 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Cold said:
Lurking Lawyer said:
I suppose it could be semantics in the distinction between "pausing flying" and "grounding", but the MoD Twitter account is denying it's a fleet-wide grounding:

"Contrary to reports, all F-35 jets have not been grounded. We have paused some F-35 flying as a precautionary measure while we consider the findings of an ongoing enquiry. Flight trials from @HMSQnlz continue and the programme remains on schedule"

Better safe than sorry though, I suppose. It's not like teething problems in new technology is unheard of.
Yeah, but mine has pretty pictures attached. biggrin

The important sentence is the one stating that trials from HMSQnlz are carrying on as normal as that kind of refutes the whole "OMG the sky is falling in" rhetoric. HMSQnlz herself confirms that it's business as normal.



Erm, shouldn't they be showing their "mettle"??

Al Murphy

293 posts

183 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Kccv23highliftcam said:
And even MORE bad news..MOD EXPECTING SEVERE CUTS....

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/24/mi...

Not a good week for the programme..not a good week for UK mil either..
Seeing as that link is nearly a year old it's been more than a bad week. rolleyes

Al

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Al Murphy said:
Seeing as that link is nearly a year old it's been more than a bad week. rolleyes

Al
Brilliant smile

bxlbaz

Original Poster:

383 posts

175 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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aeropilot said:
Sarcastic humour doesn't always translate in the written word on a worldwide forum....which is what these things are for - hint, hint winklaughbiglaughhehe
Excellent point👍🏻

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

99 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Tony1963 said:
Al Murphy said:
Seeing as that link is nearly a year old it's been more than a bad week. rolleyes

Al
Brilliant smile
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-statement/Commons/2018-07-19/HCWS883/

"Conclusion

The first phase of the MDP has looked to set the direction we intend to take. It has clarified three key themes we should consider in the next phase: firstly, our Armed Forces need to be ready and able to match the pace at which our adversaries now move. Secondly, our Armed Forces need to be a fighting force fit for the challenges of the 21st century. And, finally, we need to transform the business of Defence to deliver a robust, credible, modern and affordable force.

The Prime Minister, Chancellor and I will continue to work closely throughout the next phase of the MDP, and I will keep the House updated as decisions are made.

We will continue to meet our commitment to our partners and maintain a full spectrum of nuclear, conventional and cyber capabilities to match our global ambition. With one of the largest Defence budgets in the world, and the highest in Europe, our Defence budget is increasing in real terms by £1 billion a year during this Parliament. The stage is now set for the next phase of this programme of work to ensure UK defence and our Armed Forces can continue to keep our country safe, our people and interests around the world secure, and help ensure that the UK can continue to play a major role on the world stage."

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