Russian Cargo Ship beached in Falmouth
Russian Cargo Ship beached in Falmouth
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Getragdogleg

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9,903 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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It seems a 16000 ton Russian cargo ship has slipped anchor and had beached on Gyllingvase beach in Falmouth.

Its quite large and apparently well stuck on the sand.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/18/16000-...

Lots of local pics on Twitter if you search "Falmouth"

MartG

22,428 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Getragdogleg

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9,903 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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It is seeming ok at the moment but it has the potential to become a much larger problem if this weather continues and they don't get it off the beach soon.

RedWhiteMonkey

8,720 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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16000 ton, that's a lot of novichok.

OtherBusiness

883 posts

166 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Looks like a successful refloat

Getragdogleg

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9,903 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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OtherBusiness said:
Looks like a successful refloat
Ahh they have done it, I'm not near it now so didn't see.

CAPP0

20,541 posts

227 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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RedWhiteMonkey said:
16000 ton, that's a lot of novichok.
Or a lot of diving equipment sent off to tap into the trans-Atlantic cables whilst they "refloat" biggrin

river_rat

729 posts

227 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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OK, so I'll admit I don't know much about skippering a tanker, but.....from what I've read this thing slipped it's anchor and drifed for quite some time (hours) before running aground.

Wouldn't there be someone on board who is awake and realised it is drifting and can alert the other crew members, start the engine and then get moving away from shore? Or is that too simple a concept?

mcdjl

5,699 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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river_rat said:
OK, so I'll admit I don't know much about skippering a tanker, but.....from what I've read this thing slipped it's anchor and drifed for quite some time (hours) before running aground.

Wouldn't there be someone on board who is awake and realised it is drifting and can alert the other crew members, start the engine and then get moving away from shore? Or is that too simple a concept?
Probably it will depend on having some one awake and then realising the boat isn't stationary. In the dark/rain t se there won't be lot of reference points and then the engine start won't be quick on those things.

andy97

4,783 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Wonder if they will dock it at A&P Marine for a hull inspection?

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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andy97 said:
Wonder if they will dock it at A&P Marine for a hull inspection?
I doubt anyone will touch it.
Just came across a report saying they are threatening legal action against the UK. The report also states the ship had more than 100 faults at its last inspection and had been refused departure from its last port for more than 7 months.

Problem child.

Steve

CubanPete

3,771 posts

212 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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The channel is a clean fuel zone.

What the hell is it burning, coal?


DaveTheRave87

2,155 posts

113 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Steve_D said:
I doubt anyone will touch it.
Just came across a report saying they are threatening legal action against the UK. The report also states the ship had more than 100 faults at its last inspection and had been refused departure from its last port for more than 7 months.

Problem child.

Steve
What grounds for legal action would there be? The UK got its coastline in the way off the ship?

Dogwatch

6,369 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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CubanPete said:
The channel is a clean fuel zone.

What the hell is it burning, coal?

Well the ship isn't in prime condition apparently and the engine(s) is probably on an unaccustomed full ahead +, so probably the lesser evil than breaking up on the beach.
What's the Russian for "the engine cannae take it Cap'n"? smile

stevesingo

5,024 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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Dogwatch said:
Well the ship isn't in prime condition apparently and the engine(s) is probably on an unaccustomed full ahead +, so probably the lesser evil than breaking up on the beach.
What's the Russian for "the engine cannae take it Cap'n"? smile
Mr Chekov should be able to answer that.

andy97

4,783 posts

246 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Steve_D said:
andy97 said:
Wonder if they will dock it at A&P Marine for a hull inspection?
I doubt anyone will touch it.
Just came across a report saying they are threatening legal action against the UK. The report also states the ship had more than 100 faults at its last inspection and had been refused departure from its last port for more than 7 months.

Problem child.

Steve
A&P Marine's 3 x tugs involved despite being harbour tugs only, and not salvage tugs.
https://www.ap-group.co.uk/news/2018/a-p-respond-t...

Krikkit

27,842 posts

205 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Steve_D said:
I doubt anyone will touch it.
Just came across a report saying they are threatening legal action against the UK. The report also states the ship had more than 100 faults at its last inspection and had been refused departure from its last port for more than 7 months.

Problem child.

Steve
Yes, sounds rather unfortunate for the crew being stuck on a tub like that:

VesselTracker said:
Fri Dec 21 11:49:37 CET 2018 Timsen

The "Kuzma Minin" was still in Falmouth Bay off Gyllyngvase Beach for the ongoing inspections on Dec 21. The Falmouth harbour master was discussing the future of the vessel with the Secretary of State's Representative Maritime Salvage and Intervention and the vessel owners.

The latest inspection found so many faults that the ship was detained in the Netherlands for 71 days and only released on Dec 6, after 13 defects were discovered. She had arrived at the port of Terneuzen on July 20.

The crew of the Kuzma Minin lived on nothing but potato soup for at least five months when their ship was held in the Netherlands amid claims its owner had debts to pay. Locals in Terneuzen launched a fundraising campaign to feed the crew and give them essential supplies. The International Transport Workers Federation (ITF), found that the ship's supplies had reached critical levels before locals stepped in to help.

The ship was anchored in the North Sea before heading for Ceuta 15 miles off Fowey from Dec 10 to 13, then off Coverack on the Lizard on Dec 14, before heading to Falmouth for bunkering fuel on Dec 15. The vessel actually has full electrical and engine power, and all crew onboard were safe and well. The Secretary of State’s Representaive (SOSREP) was liaising with the owners of the vessel and the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) have also been sent to Falmouth. The SOSREP, MCA, Falmouth Harbour Commissioners, Cornwall Council and the Standing Environment Group continued to liaise and monitor the situation.

paintman

7,852 posts

214 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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Probably want to sue the UK for managing to get the ship off so it didn't break up & they now won't be able to get a big insurance payout.

Some nonsense about it being caught on a chain & being dragged.
I wasn't aware there were any self propelled chains on the bottom in the approaches to Falmouth!
Only dragging chain would have been the ship's own anchor(s).

https://thesunbest.com/giant-russia-cargo-ship-is-...

Edited by paintman on Friday 21st December 12:15

Some Guy

2,576 posts

115 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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river_rat said:
Wouldn't there be someone on board who is awake and realised it is drifting and can alert the other crew members, start the engine and then get moving away from shore? Or is that too simple a concept?
You dont need to notice anything. The anchor alarm and GPS will alert you/wake you up, if the ship moves from its position.
Gives you plenty of time to either drop another anchor, or crank the engine.

eldar

24,904 posts

220 months

Saturday 22nd December 2018
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Some Guy said:
You dont need to notice anything. The anchor alarm and GPS will alert you/wake you up, if the ship moves from its position.
Gives you plenty of time to either drop another anchor, or crank the engine.
I suspect they had set the Vodka over ride....