Test Pilot
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julian64

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14,325 posts

278 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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Anyone know what the difference between a test pilot one and a test pilot two grading is on a flying license?

frodo_monkey

672 posts

220 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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My missus did ETPS as a flight test engineer a while ago; as far as I know there are two lengths of course (A&B). I think these correspond to the EASA licence you’d get if you were civilian - we’re both military so I don’t know.

There’s a bit on the ETPS website:

http://www.etps.qinetiq.com/courses/Pages/default....

hidetheelephants

34,053 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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julian64 said:
Anyone know what the difference between a test pilot one and a test pilot two grading is on a flying license?
From their website the US NTPS course for class 1 is 50 weeks and class 2 is 26, so half the content. The class 1 is a snip at just under $1m. hehe

julian64

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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The question was from the mid fifties in the UK. My father has a pilot license which seems to indicate he is/was a test pilot 2 in some of his old paperwork. He seems to think there was a 1-10 category of test pilots at that time. To him at the time it seems to have been a green light to fly any aircraft he wanted to.

Obviously its all changed now as time marched on.

Eric Mc

124,943 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Where did he train to be a test pilot? Was it at the Empire Test Pilot's School (ETPS)? Back then it was based at Farnborough.

julian64

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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church Fenton and Boscombe down apparently

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Must have been after the ETPS moved to Boscombe - which was in 1968.

julian64

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Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Eric Mc said:
Must have been after the ETPS moved to Boscombe - which was in 1968.
He thinks (after the second grilling) that it was 62 but now in his mid eighties so I wouldn't entirely trust his memory. I just found it interesting. I might go and have a look at his paperwork as he has all his flight licenses in a memento folder.

He keeps talking about throwing everything away.

Eric Mc

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289 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Don't let him do that. Even if he has no interest in keeping it there are lots of people who would love to see it - especially his log books and notes.

dorset_clive

71 posts

219 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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I'd be pretty sure the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection would be interested in TP log books. They may well be able to help with the different 'classes' of TP.

hidetheelephants

34,053 posts

217 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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dorset_clive said:
I'd be pretty sure the Boscombe Down Aviation Collection would be interested in TP log books.
Definitely this.

DavieBNL

307 posts

87 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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This EASA doc (Part 21) has all the details at Appendix XII *Categories of flight tests and associated flight test
crew qualifications* - https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu...

Suggest you just turn to page 454 rather than start at the front!

EddyBee

241 posts

192 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Sorry I can’t help with the info in any way but thought you may like this (about test pilots in the RAF)
https://youtu.be/vFfWqd9p33k
Mind you it’s from the 80s so a completely different era.

Edit: reading my post back it’s a pretty pointless addition to the thread haha. Still a good watch though.

Eric Mc

124,943 posts

289 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Not at all. That series was about the work of the Empire Test Pilot's School, Boscombe Down.

julian64

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Friday 15th February 2019
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Still trying to get the information off him. Will update eventually. Currently trying to fix a German aircraft clock.