Is this normal?
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bitchstewie

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64,412 posts

234 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-47360240/stron...

I think I'd have been stting my pants frankly.

JapanRed

1,589 posts

135 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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I was just about to post the same video.

How far can big commercial planes such as the one in the video bank? It looks to be at approx 45 degrees each way - i’d Have thought it would’ve dropped out of the sky at such an angle. Can’t have been comfortable for the passengers that!!!

Cupramax

10,936 posts

276 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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I think Gib can suffer with extreme winds but ive never seen anything like that, reckon several new sets of underwear required (including mine if i was on it ) laugh

cherryowen

12,399 posts

228 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Mrs O was part of ATC at Gib many years ago, and apparently it's all to do with wind shear barrelling over the rock (much like what affects flights at Denver International)


shouldbworking

4,795 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Is there such a think as lateral PIO?

lbc

3,318 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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bhstewie said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-47360240/stron...

I think I'd have been stting my pants frankly.
Nothing unusual for Gibraltar.

If things get too bad they divert all flights to Malaga.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

222 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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I reckon it's a bit unusual

JapanRed

1,589 posts

135 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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lbc said:
bhstewie said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-47360240/stron...

I think I'd have been stting my pants frankly.
Nothing unusual for Gibraltar.

If things get too bad they divert all flights to Malaga.
Really? How far will the plane bank before the pilots start to worry?

AshVX220

5,965 posts

214 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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When I saw this video it was on my facebook feed with little supporting info, I actually discarded it as fake. I can't believe it's real, must have been terrifying! eekeekeek

karma mechanic

835 posts

146 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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That looks to me like the fly-by-wire inputs were out of sync with the actual buffeting from the wind. Whether that's a pilot doing it or some software I don't know, but it did look impressively regular. Software would be very regular...

Cupramax

10,936 posts

276 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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I was wondering if the pilot was doing it deliberately as a technique to deal with severe wind shear, anyone know?

JapanRed

1,589 posts

135 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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karma mechanic said:
That looks to me like the fly-by-wire inputs were out of sync with the actual buffeting from the wind. Whether that's a pilot doing it or some software I don't know, but it did look impressively regular. Software would be very regular...
Can you say that again in a way that us laymen would understand? wink

Schmeeky

4,267 posts

241 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Cupramax said:
I was wondering if the pilot was doing it deliberately as a technique to deal with severe wind shear, anyone know?

Cupramax

10,936 posts

276 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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hehe very apt.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

13,240 posts

124 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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I've been on a flight where very similar happened, coming in to Birmingham, October 17. Maybe 3-400 metres before landing the 737 went at that sort of angle (at least it felt it!) right, then left, then right. It then leveled out before landing shortly after. It was actually the smoothest landing (the actual landing, not the approach of course) I've ever experienced. I was absolutely crapping it at the time, with visions of the plane coming down on it's wing, I was waiting for a go around to happen.

I spoke briefly to the FO departing the plane, I said 'that was a bit hairy!' he just replied 'wasn't it just', whilst looking slightly shell shocked.

Chuck328

1,630 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Cupramax said:
I was wondering if the pilot was doing it deliberately as a technique to deal with severe wind shear, anyone know?
Definately not a windshear recovery technique.

Cupramax

10,936 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Here’s the full video of the approach, glad I wasn’t on that one. Clean underwear all round.

https://youtu.be/tjv3xBB-HmY

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

64,412 posts

234 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Cupramax said:
Here’s the full video of the approach, glad I wasn’t on that one. Clean underwear all round.

https://youtu.be/tjv3xBB-HmY
eek

Seriously. fk that.

Krikkit

27,842 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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Yep, fk that!

Is it just control lag versus the perfect wind force to create a harmonic?

Cupramax

10,936 posts

276 months

Thursday 28th February 2019
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And the quite excellent Mentour pilots concise explanation of what was going on.

https://youtu.be/3BkOgZPjZX4