Has a US E-11A been shot down?
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https://twitter.com/CivMilAir/status/1221782172346...
that's all I have
here is a bit about the plane
https://theaviationist.com/2018/11/26/the-u-s-air-...
that's all I have
here is a bit about the plane
https://theaviationist.com/2018/11/26/the-u-s-air-...
Technical failure forcing emergency landing? It's a mess either way but maybe a missile would have caused it to break up in the air similar to events in Iran the other week?
Fuselage looks reasonably intact to me, albeit consumed by fire. Slim odds of the crew waking away though, fingers crossed for them that they aren't guests of the taliban if they did get out....
Fuselage looks reasonably intact to me, albeit consumed by fire. Slim odds of the crew waking away though, fingers crossed for them that they aren't guests of the taliban if they did get out....
Edited by DuraAce on Monday 27th January 13:38
Trevatanus said:
Possible it could have been damaged after landing to avoid the tech getting in the wrong hands?
If it was a controlled or semi-controlled landing then that seems like a sensible explanation - the fire looks like it was internal burning out rather than what you'd expect of outside burning in... Hope the crew's OK.Trevatanus said:
Possible it could have been damaged after landing to avoid the tech getting in the wrong hands?
Going by other outlets and what can be seen its looks highly likely it was a controlled landing followed by the use of on board incendiaries to destroy anything of interest!have a look at this
http://avherald.com/h?article=4d282570&opt=256
Trevatanus said:
Possible it could have been damaged after landing to avoid the tech getting in the wrong hands?
They’ve managed to remove a wing while they were at it! Wonder where that’s ended up?As someone who flies the Global Express, albeit in a slightly less exciting role, a technical failure would be rather concerning.
Crumpet said:
They’ve managed to remove a wing while they were at it! Wonder where that’s ended up?
As someone who flies the Global Express, albeit in a slightly less exciting role, a technical failure would be rather concerning.
I noticed that as well but there is another photo and its hard to distinguish as it may be snow but it looks like the wing is a short distance away!As someone who flies the Global Express, albeit in a slightly less exciting role, a technical failure would be rather concerning.
Reports via AFP saying Michael DAndrea aka "Roger" was on board. This is one of the top agency guys and is massive news if true. He was head of CIA CT ops for almost 10 years. A direct graduate of "the farm" and has been in post as 38 years.... will be very big if true. (edit to add the sources who state this are not from the USA so take with pinch of salt!)
Edited by red_slr on Tuesday 28th January 14:04
No one knows other than they did declare an emergency and asked for FL350. From the photos online all we can tell is it has managed to "land" but lost both wings in the process after hitting a large ditch. Looks like the APU was running which is a sign that perhaps they did not have engines to generate power but again we don't really know.
Hopefully it was a long drawn out glide down meaning they could get people in position - or as near as possible.
Hopefully it was a long drawn out glide down meaning they could get people in position - or as near as possible.
red_slr said:
No one knows other than they did declare an emergency and asked for FL350. From the photos online all we can tell is it has managed to "land" but lost both wings in the process after hitting a large ditch. Looks like the APU was running which is a sign that perhaps they did not have engines to generate power but again we don't really know.
Hopefully it was a long drawn out glide down meaning they could get people in position - or as near as possible.
TBF, I expect plenty of people will know what happened. Hopefully it was a long drawn out glide down meaning they could get people in position - or as near as possible.
red_slr said:
Well of course, I suspect they went NORDO for security reasons and also to give full situation update.
This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
For the benefit of Eric in particular: In North American aviation, a NORDO aircraft is an aircraft flying without a radio.This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
New one on me anyway
red_slr said:
Hopefully it was a long drawn out glide down meaning they could get people in position - or as near as possible.
Even from FL350 they’d have roughly twenty minutes. And approximately 80 miles to run. Although the terrain / elevation could quite easily cut five minutes and many miles off that!Interestingly there is a checklist that calls specifically for FL350 max. Although there’s no reason you’d need to put it down in a field because of it....
Yertis said:
red_slr said:
Well of course, I suspect they went NORDO for security reasons and also to give full situation update.
This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
For the benefit of Eric in particular: In North American aviation, a NORDO aircraft is an aircraft flying without a radio.This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
New one on me anyway
El stovey said:
Yertis said:
red_slr said:
Well of course, I suspect they went NORDO for security reasons and also to give full situation update.
This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
For the benefit of Eric in particular: In North American aviation, a NORDO aircraft is an aircraft flying without a radio.This could well be the most expensive loss of an aircraft since the B2 crash.
New one on me anyway
If I'm talking to an ATSU and then QSY so that someone listening in can't hear me any more, am I NORDO? Or have I just poked off to a different frequency? And if my wingman goes off to the wrong frequency and we can't talk to each other, are we both NORDO, or just the one on the wrong frequency? Or only if one of us forgot to write down the collector?
On a more sombre note, the state of the front of that aircraft in the video doesn't bode well
Edited by eharding on Tuesday 28th January 15:21
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