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grumpy52

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190 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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The RAF Benevolent Fund has posted that Wing Commander Paul Farnes DFM a pilot from the Battle of Britain has died aged 101 .
RIP SIR

Amused2death

2,520 posts

220 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I'm fairly certain I read yesterday that he was the last one.

Anybody more knowledgeable able to confirm?

grumpy52

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190 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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He was the last surviving "Ace" , those with more than 5 certified kills .
Records indicate that there are just 2 of the "Few" still alive .

pobs

98 posts

173 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Just to be a pedant, it's three aircraft shot down to become an ace.

Rest in Peace and blue skies to Wing Commander Farnes DFM

dr_gn

16,771 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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pobs said:
Just to be a pedant, it's three aircraft shot down to become an ace.

Rest in Peace and blue skies to Wing Commander Farnes DFM
5 in WW2.

Simpo Two

91,486 posts

289 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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pobs said:
Just to be a pedant, it's three aircraft shot down to become an ace.
Wasn't that the Americans?

DeejRC

8,779 posts

106 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Its always been 5 to be an "Ace" for RFC/RAF pilots to my recollection.

Farnes became an Ace during the BoB I believe.

RIP old chap.

grumpy52

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Friday 31st January 2020
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Like many at the time his story is like something from a boys own annual.
He wasn't an officer when he first flew hence the award of a DFM , only awarded to SNCOs or other ranks . An outstanding award to receive . Became an Ace , survived the war and rose to the rank of Wing Commander , and finally made it to 101 years old .
A pretty impressive life by any standards

aeropilot

39,788 posts

251 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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DeejRC said:
Its always been 5 to be an "Ace" for RFC/RAF pilots to my recollection.
yes


Lotus102

143 posts

75 months

Saturday 1st February 2020
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Seems to have been considered five victories = ace since the latter part of the First World War. The Smithsonian suggests that the main air forces at the time the US joined the war considered ten victories to be the (strictly unofficial) qualifying score, but as it seemed unlikely any US pilots would make that in the near future, American journalists decided amongst themselves to halve the limit, and thereafter it stuck, and spread to other air arms.

(Things are slightly complicated by the fact that in WW1, the RFC and RNAS, and latterly the RAF did not count enemy aircraft destroyed, but those which had been ‘driven down’, a looser categorisation, but by WW2, the counting of aircraft destroyed, probably destroyed and damaged was instituted. The RAF accounted for part shares of kills, which could be totalled into whole ones. E.g. if you and your wingman both contributed to two kills, that counted as one each).

Farnes’ career was pretty remarkable, even for the standards of the time. He survived the Battle of France, Battle of Britain, Malta and North Africa as a pilot, and served for the whole of the war, the last couple of years in a staff role. Blue skies sir