Broken down Apache in a field
Broken down Apache in a field
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Saturday 8th February 2020
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https://twitter.com/co_3regimentaac/status/1226166...

If you happen to see an Apache parked in a field in Lincolnshire, don’t worry! Due to a technical issue, the crew made a precautionary landing in a field. Our engineers are looking at it now. They may have to weather out the coming storm though before it comes home! 💨 ☔️

Riley Blue

22,952 posts

250 months

Sunday 9th February 2020
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Love the 'Is that a Police Aware sticker?' comment. laugh

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th February 2020
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The aircraft is back at Wattisham now. Arrived at my hangar at about 4pm. Not very muddy at all!

Krikkit

27,841 posts

205 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Tony1963 said:
The aircraft is back at Wattisham now. Arrived at my hangar at about 4pm. Not very muddy at all!
What was the issue that forced the landing? Something gearbox-related?

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Krikkit said:
What was the issue that forced the landing? Something gearbox-related?
Single hydraulic system failure.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

303 months

Friday 14th February 2020
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Assuming that the Apache landed on private property, what rights of salvage does the landowner have? Can the farmer prevent the recovery truck access in best get off moi land fashion?




GliderRider

2,855 posts

105 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
Assuming that the Apache landed on private property, what rights of salvage does the landowner have? Can the farmer prevent the recovery truck access in best get off moi land fashion?
Usually thrusting a piece of paper under an awkward farmer's nose, whilst saying 'Sign here to show you accept full responsibility for any damage to our multi squillion pound helicopter whilst it is in your care', would make them see the benefits of co-operating.
In the case of an Apache and its dangly bits, illegal possession of a firearm could conceivably apply.

From my own experience of landing in farmer's fields, if you are polite, considerate and empathetic to the farmer, he or she is most likely to reciprocate.

Edited by GliderRider on Saturday 15th February 03:17

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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The landowner will make a few quid in compensation.

loskie

6,748 posts

144 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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typical modern day attitude, "compo" WTF

When we were kids and even more recently I have had army camped up(on watch) near the house or at the drive end whilst on exercise. We took them mugs of tea and bacon rolls.
When you lived in a rural area where little happens it was quite interesting and exciting.


I do remember in the 70/80's when I was a kid mum taking a bucket of coffee and mugs to the local firefighters who were putting out the local moss that was on fire, the peat used to burn for days.

Why do people no longer have the decency to do kind things??

borcy

10,496 posts

80 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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How do you know that they weren't ?

Btw the MoD have been compensating farmers for a long time.

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey

7,354 posts

79 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
Assuming that the Apache landed on private property, what rights of salvage does the landowner have? Can the farmer prevent the recovery truck access in best get off moi land fashion?
They'll deploy the RAF special forces regiment to the nearest hotel to guard it.

normalbloke

8,523 posts

243 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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loskie said:
typical modern day attitude, "compo" WTF

When we were kids and even more recently I have had army camped up(on watch) near the house or at the drive end whilst on exercise. We took them mugs of tea and bacon rolls.
When you lived in a rural area where little happens it was quite interesting and exciting.


I do remember in the 70/80's when I was a kid mum taking a bucket of coffee and mugs to the local firefighters who were putting out the local moss that was on fire, the peat used to burn for days.

Why do people no longer have the decency to do kind things??
This. From 1999-2005, I spent about 2500 hours carrying out pipeline patrols in an old an old Jetranger in the U.K. We have had to make many precautionary landings, and more often than not, by the time the rotor brake had done its job, somebody would normally be there offering hot tea. Not once did we encounter any grumpiness.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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normalbloke said:
This. From 1999-2005, I spent about 2500 hours carrying out pipeline patrols in an old an old Jetranger in the U.K. We have had to make many precautionary landings, and more often than not, by the time the rotor brake had done its job, somebody would normally be there offering hot tea. Not once did we encounter any grumpiness.
It so British. hehe

“Oh look a helicopter has just landed in our field/ garden/ cricket green. Best see if they want a cup of tea“

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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loskie said:
typical modern day attitude, "compo" WTF

When we were kids and even more recently I have had army camped up(on watch) near the house or at the drive end whilst on exercise. We took them mugs of tea and bacon rolls.
When you lived in a rural area where little happens it was quite interesting and exciting.


I do remember in the 70/80's when I was a kid mum taking a bucket of coffee and mugs to the local firefighters who were putting out the local moss that was on fire, the peat used to burn for days.

Why do people no longer have the decency to do kind things??
You will be pleased to know that people still make firefighters cups of tea smile

civicduty

1,857 posts

227 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:
Ayahuasca said:
Assuming that the Apache landed on private property, what rights of salvage does the landowner have? Can the farmer prevent the recovery truck access in best get off moi land fashion?
They'll deploy the RAF special forces regiment to the nearest hotel to guard it.
Pah the RAF have no interest in that ever since the government decided to give a Helicopter to the Army Air Corp. hehe

Chrisgr31

14,225 posts

279 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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loskie said:
typical modern day attitude, "compo" WTF

When we were kids and even more recently I have had army camped up(on watch) near the house or at the drive end whilst on exercise. We took them mugs of tea and bacon rolls.
When you lived in a rural area where little happens it was quite interesting and exciting.


I do remember in the 70/80's when I was a kid mum taking a bucket of coffee and mugs to the local firefighters who were putting out the local moss that was on fire, the peat used to burn for days.

Why do people no longer have the decency to do kind things??
Surely it depends on the circumstances. A helicopter lands in a field of corn. It then has to be extracted by road with the result that half the crop is destroyed. Surely then it is only right that the landowner should be compensated? Once you decide that you then need to work back down to a case where nothing is owed.


williamp

20,124 posts

297 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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El stovey said:
It so British. hehe

“Oh look a helicopter has just landed in our field/ garden/ cricket green. Best see if they want a cup of tea“


"Thanks awfully, old boy...." after landing in their greenhouse...

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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loskie said:
typical modern day attitude, "compo" WTF
Well, I joined the RAF in 1981, and compensation to farmers had been in place for many years by then. I’ll assume you’re not a farmer who depends on his crops for your very existence?

wolfracesonic

8,920 posts

151 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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Chrisgr31 said:
Surely it depends on the circumstances. A helicopter lands in a field of corn. It then has to be extracted by road with the result that half the crop is destroyed. Surely then it is only right that the landowner should be compensated? Once you decide that you then need to work back down to a case where nothing is owed.
I think this is where the phrase ‘bought the farm’ comes from, it’s origins being in the U.S. Jet plane crashes in farmers field, crops destroyed, Government asks farmer value of crops destroyed, farmer exaggerates and receives enough compensation to have bought the whole farm. In the book I read it in, it seems to have started in the early years of jet fighter development, when planes were being lost with alarming regularity.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

78 months

Saturday 15th February 2020
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wolfracesonic said:
I think this is where the phrase ‘bought the farm’ comes from, it’s origins being in the U.S. Jet plane crashes in farmers field, crops destroyed, Government asks farmer value of crops destroyed, farmer exaggerates and receives enough compensation to have bought the whole farm. In the book I read it in, it seems to have started in the early years of jet fighter development, when planes were being lost with alarming regularity.
Interesting. Every day’s a school day in here.