USAF Don’t like their new tankers.
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In more Boeing bad news...
USAF are saying they would only send their new tanker into battle if they had no choice. Maybe they should have bought the MRTT after all and ignored Boeing chucking their toys out of the pram.
https://www.airforcemag.com/goldfein-usaf-wont-use...
USAF are saying they would only send their new tanker into battle if they had no choice. Maybe they should have bought the MRTT after all and ignored Boeing chucking their toys out of the pram.
https://www.airforcemag.com/goldfein-usaf-wont-use...
This issue has been a problem for some 5 or 6 years now...........and is still not resolved.
This is what happens when geeks want to replace a task that has bee done perfectly well by a human being for decades........
Technology for technology sake. Pointless waste of time and money.
The previous generation remote systems work perfectly fine in the existing tankers..........if it aint broke there's no need to fix it.
This is what happens when geeks want to replace a task that has bee done perfectly well by a human being for decades........
Technology for technology sake. Pointless waste of time and money.
The previous generation remote systems work perfectly fine in the existing tankers..........if it aint broke there's no need to fix it.
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 4th March 08:53
But this new 3D camera section meant that Boeing could save a huge amount of money by not having to redesign the whole tail section of the 767 so that a human could actually look out of the window and actually see the A/C they were tanking with, and remember, saving Boeing money is the ONLY thing Boeing care about any more, not the end users experience (also see P8 low level problems, MCAS, Starliner failures etc etc).
I'm more amazed that Israel has decided to get 8 of these despite them not being full fit for duty yet as Israel is usually far more intelligent about its purchases!
I'm more amazed that Israel has decided to get 8 of these despite them not being full fit for duty yet as Israel is usually far more intelligent about its purchases!
aeropilot said:
This issue has been a problem for some 5 or 6 years now...........and is still not resolved.
This is what happens when geeks want to replace a task that has bee done perfectly well by a human being for decades........
Technology for technology sake. Pointless waste of time and money.
The previous generation remote systems work perfectly fine in the existing tankers..........if it aint broke there's no need to fix it.
Geeks my sharney arse. A pound to a penny this arose out of a bean-counters brainfart meeting where someone said "why don't we just put a camera in the tail instead of going to the expense of hacking a porthole in the airframe?"This is what happens when geeks want to replace a task that has bee done perfectly well by a human being for decades........
Technology for technology sake. Pointless waste of time and money.
The previous generation remote systems work perfectly fine in the existing tankers..........if it aint broke there's no need to fix it.
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 4th March 08:53
IanH755 said:
But this new 3D camera section meant that Boeing could save a huge amount of money by not having to redesign the whole tail section of the 767 so that a human could actually look out of the window and actually see the A/C they were tanking with, and remember, saving Boeing money is the ONLY thing Boeing care about any more, not the end users experience (also see P8 low level problems, MCAS, Starliner failures etc etc).
Not quite, as the first gen remote system has been working OK in the KC-10's for years and in the Airbus tankers.......USAF decided they wanted a much more whizzy new geeky one though rather than just use the one that works.......and which Boeing can't get to work.
As I said, if it ain't broke........
The sad thing is the USAF initially chose the A330 MRTT (KC-30) but Boeing protested that things weren't fair and the competition rerun. Boeing then won with the KC-46.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS/Northrop_Grumma...
The RAF has now been successfully using the A330 MRTT/Voyager (slightly different I know, but...) since 2011.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS/Northrop_Grumma...
The RAF has now been successfully using the A330 MRTT/Voyager (slightly different I know, but...) since 2011.
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