Converting vfh to channel 0 to listen to ditress calls
Converting vfh to channel 0 to listen to ditress calls
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Big Rig

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8,992 posts

216 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Can it be done? Always fascinated me, purely in a listening capacity of course.

ecsrobin

18,640 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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I’m sure it’s possible to do with the right kit however:

Under section 48 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006 (as amended), it may be an offence if a person uses radio equipment with the intention of receiving a message of which they are not an intended recipient.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/00...


DavieBNL

309 posts

92 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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You are absolutely correct but just another utterly unenforceable law. Must be thousands of scanners and receivers sold a year; I bet you can count on one hand the number of prosecutions under that Act for listening in.

Edited by DavieBNL on Sunday 12th April 10:24

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Distress calls are normally on channel 16 are they not?

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Yes, but the Coastguard/RNLI etc working channel is Channel 0.
Can be frustrating when you're in the area - esp when you're involved in the search - & you can't hear everything that's going on!

loggo

474 posts

141 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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DavieBNL said:
You are absolutely correct but just another utterly unenforceable law. Must be thousands of scanners and receivers sold a year; I bet you can count on one hand the number of prosecutions under that Act for listening in.

Edited by DavieBNL on Sunday 12th April 10:24
Because it is hard to enforce the law does not mean you should ignore it. It is there for a purpose and will do you no harm to obey it.
"Just because you can" thinking has no traction when lives are at risk.
I could drawer a parallel to the current corvid 19 situation......

Jaguar steve

9,232 posts

239 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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My hand held and on board VHF both have CH 0.

My understanding is unless you're UK based SAR or Coastguard you don't use it in UK waters. Both will still be monitoring VHF 16 so if you are able to offer information or assistance in a distress situation then use CH 16 to make initial contact then if requested switch to whichever channel you're directed too.

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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loggo said:
the current corvid 19 situation......
Is that what's called "Crow-na virus"?

getmecoat

ecsrobin

18,640 posts

194 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Jaguar steve said:
My hand held and on board VHF both have CH 0.

My understanding is unless you're UK based SAR or Coastguard you don't use it in UK waters. Both will still be monitoring VHF 16 so if you are able to offer information or assistance in a distress situation then use CH 16 to make initial contact then if requested switch to whichever channel you're directed too.
If it’s SAR then it will all be working from CH16 with just lifeboats, Coastal rescue teams, control room and helicopters operating on CH0.

DocJock

8,722 posts

269 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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CAPP0 said:
loggo said:
the current corvid 19 situation......
Is that what's called "Crow-na virus"?

getmecoat
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DavieBNL

309 posts

92 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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loggo said:
DavieBNL said:
You are absolutely correct but just another utterly unenforceable law. Must be thousands of scanners and receivers sold a year; I bet you can count on one hand the number of prosecutions under that Act for listening in.

Edited by DavieBNL on Sunday 12th April 10:24
Because it is hard to enforce the law does not mean you should ignore it. It is there for a purpose and will do you no harm to obey it.
"Just because you can" thinking has no traction when lives are at risk.
I could drawer a parallel to the current corvid 19 situation......
Wow - seemed to have touched a nerve there.

What a utterly bizarre parallel to make. Genuinely baffled as to what "harm" those folks who do scanner type stuff are causing other people.

ecsrobin

18,640 posts

194 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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DavieBNL said:
Wow - seemed to have touched a nerve there.

What a utterly bizarre parallel to make. Genuinely baffled as to what "harm" those folks who do scanner type stuff are causing other people.
Because sensitive information might be transmitted over that channel, medical details, the fact somebody has deceased and so on. I wouldn’t say it’s a bizarre parallel at all.

DavieBNL

309 posts

92 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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OK - I'll put my hands up - not really defending anything specifically here. I have no real interest in what these listening folks do (not doing it as a hobby I have no idea what the correct term for them is) but...I was under the impression that all emerg services stuff, medical info, etc was encrypted these days with TETRA radios so you cannot listen in?

I think the issue raised above was (I think) regarding compliance with the law, picking and choosing? Some people are going to listen to these radios for right or wrong in the same way some people will drive at over 70mph on a motorway.

ecsrobin

18,640 posts

194 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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DavieBNL said:
OK - I'll put my hands up - not really defending anything specifically here. I have no real interest in what these listening folks do (not doing it as a hobby I have no idea what the correct term for them is) but...I was under the impression that all emerg services stuff, medical info, etc was encrypted these days with TETRA radios so you cannot listen in?
Police, Ambulance, Fire operate on Tetra as do the coastguard helicopters but coastguard teams, lifeboats and mountain rescue teams operate on VHF.

It is also possible but very hard to listen to Tetra so it’s not fully secure.

Edited by ecsrobin on Monday 13th April 18:00

shed driver

3,055 posts

189 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Years ago - probably the early 70's my parents used to listen to the police radios on a normal FM radio - it was right at the end of the standard FM tuning spectrum - maybe about 87.5 or 107.5 and you could only hear the control rather than individual officers.

SD.