In-house engined aircraft

[LotusOmega375D]

Examples of aircraft manufacturers who also supplied the corresponding engines. Any suggestions?

I’ll kick off with Bristol (eg. Blenheim with Bristol Mercury, Brabazon with Bristol Centaurus etc.)

Edit: adding Bristol Britannia and Bristol Proteus engines.

Edited by LotusOmega375D on Tuesday 28th April 16:37

[Equus]

De Havilland

[Eric Mc]

Junkers

Wright

And Boeing. Boeing was once part of a conglomerate called United Aircraft. United owned Boeing, Pratt and Whitney and an airline called - wait for it - United Airlines.

[2xChevrons]

De Havilland is the obvious one.

The two parts of Curtiss-Wright produced aircraft and engines, although it was by no means an exclusive in-house partnership.

Junkers had a good run as both an airframe and an engine builder.

For many years Fiat made both, before and after the war.

Nakajima was prolific in both in Japan before/during the war.

Armstrong Whitworth/Armstrong Siddeley were the same corporate entity, but like Curtiss-Wright the relationship wasn't particularly close and plenty of A-W aircraft didn't use A-W engines, while A-W engines more often than not were used in non-A-W aircraft.

If you want to get into license/shadow-building, Austin assembled both Bristol aero-engines and (amongst others) the Short Stirlings that used them at Longbridge.

Edit: I see EricMc got there before me with Junkers.

Edited by 2xChevrons on Tuesday 28th April 16:27

[chrisga]

Honda?

[Leon R]

chrisga said:

Honda?

The HF120 is a 50/50 JV with GE.

[chrisga]

Leon R said:

The HF120 is a 50/50 JV with GE.

Ah ok, apologies, I thought I'd read they were their own but they obviously cheated.....

[aeropilot]

In addition to those already mentioned, there's also Kawasaki and Nakajima.

[Leon R]

chrisga said:

Leon R said:

The HF120 is a 50/50 JV with GE.

Ah ok, apologies, I thought I'd read they were their own but they obviously cheated.....

That was the initial plan but they ended up needing GE expertise when it came to getting the performace they needed from the core.

[Tango13]

A bit of a tenuous one but Anthony Fokker also owned the Oberursel engine company.

[Equus]

If you want something a bit more obscure, how about Jabiru, or the Royal Aircraft Factory?

[JxJ Jr.]

Eric Mc said:

Boeing was once part of a conglomerate...

On the same basis - Cessna. Both they, and Lycoming are both part of Textron.
Austro Engine seems to be a sister company of Diamond.
Rotorway helicopters.
HAL in India.

[Simpo Two]

Eric Mc said:

Boeing was once part of a conglomerate called United Aircraft. United owned Boeing, Pratt and Whitney and an airline called - wait for it - United Airlines.

That's unusal, conglomerates don't usually un-conglomerate!

[2xChevrons]

Simpo Two said:

That's unusal, conglomerates don't usually un-conglomerate!

They do when they're broken up due to anti-trust laws! In the fall-out from the Air Mail Scandal the US government set about smashing some trusts in the aviation industry. UATC's manufacturing assets west of the Mississippi became the modern Boeing company and those in the east became United Aircraft, while the air transport bits became United Airlines.

[Eric Mc]

Yes - a big fallout from the Roosevelt's New Deal changes was the break up of large conglomerates. These rules also affected the film and oil industries. Much of that anti-trust legislation was rescinded in the 1980s.