Bad parking, bad statement...
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"Loganair said in a statement: "A Loganair Embraer 145 regional jet, parked with no passengers or crew members aboard, was hit by a former Flybe Bombardier Q400 aircraft, which we understand was being prepared for departure after being stored at Aberdeen Airport. The nose of the Q400 impacted the rear port side of the Embraer, becoming lodged underneath and lifting the right main gear off the ground."
Erm, isn't that the starboard side?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-...
CCTV recording of the incident
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/hol...
Got to admire their determination to try and hold the thing back.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/hol...
Got to admire their determination to try and hold the thing back.
It doesn't look like either of the props are turning, and there's no tug pushing or pulling, so is the apron area really on such a slope that it could cause an unpowered aircraft to pick up that much speed if the brakes were released? I know runways aren't billiard table flat, but I'd assumed the apron areas would be kept as flat as possible to reduce the risk of stuff rolling around if left unbraked/chocked.
Mind you, given that it clearly wasn't trying to move under either its own power or with the assistance of a tug, then why would the wheels have been left unchocked - especially if the apron really is sloped enough to allow things to roll like that? From what I recall of ground handling procedures from my youthful plane spotting years, wheels would get chocked almost as soon as the aircraft came to a stop at the stand, and would only then get unchocked again just before it was ready to move or be moved off.
Mind you, given that it clearly wasn't trying to move under either its own power or with the assistance of a tug, then why would the wheels have been left unchocked - especially if the apron really is sloped enough to allow things to roll like that? From what I recall of ground handling procedures from my youthful plane spotting years, wheels would get chocked almost as soon as the aircraft came to a stop at the stand, and would only then get unchocked again just before it was ready to move or be moved off.
Buzz84 said:
CCTV recording of the incident
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/hol...
Got to admire their determination to try and hold the thing back.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/hol...
Got to admire their determination to try and hold the thing back.
Had something similar at Filton when we were converting the VC10's.
An aircraft was pushed out of the hangar with a guy in the cockpit to apply the parking brake. It was pushed out of the Brabazon hangar onto the sloping apron behind. The cockpit guy applied the parking brake, the tug was disconnected before the chocks were placed.
The aircraft started rolling back towards the now closed hangar doors !
Chocks were thrown under the nose wheels but it bumped over the first 2 sets before finally stopping on the third, approx 20 feet from the hangar doors.
Everyone was relieved but the Foreman got a hell of a b
king 
An aircraft was pushed out of the hangar with a guy in the cockpit to apply the parking brake. It was pushed out of the Brabazon hangar onto the sloping apron behind. The cockpit guy applied the parking brake, the tug was disconnected before the chocks were placed.
The aircraft started rolling back towards the now closed hangar doors !
Chocks were thrown under the nose wheels but it bumped over the first 2 sets before finally stopping on the third, approx 20 feet from the hangar doors.
Everyone was relieved but the Foreman got a hell of a b
king 
Paul-427 said:
Had something similar at Filton when we were converting the VC10's.
An aircraft was pushed out of the hangar with a guy in the cockpit to apply the parking brake. It was pushed out of the Brabazon hangar onto the sloping apron behind. The cockpit guy applied the parking brake, the tug was disconnected before the chocks were placed.
The aircraft started rolling back towards the now closed hangar doors !
Chocks were thrown under the nose wheels but it bumped over the first 2 sets before finally stopping on the third, approx 20 feet from the hangar doors.
Everyone was relieved but the Foreman got a hell of a b
king 
Bloody lucky! Chocks are only good for stopping it rolling, not stopping it once rolling. An aircraft was pushed out of the hangar with a guy in the cockpit to apply the parking brake. It was pushed out of the Brabazon hangar onto the sloping apron behind. The cockpit guy applied the parking brake, the tug was disconnected before the chocks were placed.
The aircraft started rolling back towards the now closed hangar doors !
Chocks were thrown under the nose wheels but it bumped over the first 2 sets before finally stopping on the third, approx 20 feet from the hangar doors.
Everyone was relieved but the Foreman got a hell of a b
king 
Even then i've seen a couple of aircraft bump over chocks in stormy weather with the parking brake set. Happened with a Flybe at Manchester in early March.
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