Huge Chinese Amphibian now flying....

[RDMcG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ly0ynhN_4&fe...

Big amphib, this.

[johnnyreggae]

Bizarrely youtube also offered me another first flight video from October 2018

[FunkyNige]

Wow, the comments on that video are crazy in their love for China!

[GliderRider]

Johnnyreggae, the earlier take-offs were from reservoirs. The recent flight was the AG-600's first from the sea.

Surprisingly it does not have appear to have the boundary layer control system that the Japanese Shin Meiwa US-1 & US-2 amphibians have, which means its take off run is likely to be considerably longer.

Here's the US-2 taking off in a roughish sea:

https://youtu.be/gPmwn057_20?t=165

Edited by GliderRider on Tuesday 28th July 07:23

Edited by GliderRider on Tuesday 28th July 07:24

[Simpo Two]

Is 'amphibian' the new word for flying boat? Or are they ekranoplans?

[MarkwG]

Simpo Two said:

Is 'amphibian' the new word for flying boat? Or are they ekranoplans?

It's the old word for flying boat; ekranoplans are a different kettle of fish, they tend to only operate from water.

[Europa1]

MarkwG said:

Simpo Two said:

Is 'amphibian' the new word for flying boat? Or are they ekranoplans?

It's the old word for flying boat; ekranoplans are a different kettle of fish, they tend to only operate from water.

It's the old word for a plane that can operate from water or dry land. Flying boats are a different kettle of fish as they can only operate from water.

[mikal83]

white elephant or what

[Condi]

Dirty old engines on it.

[MarkwG]

Europa1 said:

MarkwG said:

Simpo Two said:

Is 'amphibian' the new word for flying boat? Or are they ekranoplans?

It's the old word for flying boat; ekranoplans are a different kettle of fish, they tend to only operate from water.

It's the old word for a plane that can operate from water or dry land. Flying boats are a different kettle of fish as they can only operate from water.

Indeed, although there's a bit of cross pollination with the likes of the Catalina, Grumman Goose etc.

[Dr Jekyll]

Simpo Two said:

Is 'amphibian' the new word for flying boat? Or are they ekranoplans?

Ekranoplans can't climb out of ground effect, typically less than 50ft altitude, so not really suitable for being land based.

[BrettMRC]

How have they managed to make a plane with a pronounced overbite?!

[David_M]

Whenever I see seaplanes landing I wonder what happens if they hit a submerged log. Is it catastrophic? Sealed bulkheads to keep them afloat?

[aeropilot]

GliderRider said:

Surprisingly it does not have appear to have the boundary layer control system that the Japanese Shin Meiwa US-1 & US-2 amphibians have, which means its take off run is likely to be considerably longer.

Yeah, US-2 can take-off in an astonishing 300m from water....they really are quite remarkable.

Amphib's and large ones, still definately have a place in the militaries of the Asia-Pacific region......something the US and Aus/NZ have ignored for probably too long.

[MarkwG]

David_M said:

Whenever I see seaplanes landing I wonder what happens if they hit a submerged log. Is it catastrophic? Sealed bulkheads to keep them afloat?

It all gets very exciting, very quickly... http://www.seaplaneinternational.com/2015/08/03/do...

[IroningMan]

MarkwG said:

It all gets very exciting, very quickly... http://www.seaplaneinternational.com/2015/08/03/do...

I had forgotten about Cousteau.

[dazwalsh]

GliderRider said:

Johnnyreggae, the earlier take-offs were from reservoirs. The recent flight was the AG-600's first from the sea.

Surprisingly it does not have appear to have the boundary layer control system that the Japanese Shin Meiwa US-1 & US-2 amphibians have, which means its take off run is likely to be considerably longer.

Here's the US-2 taking off in a roughish sea:

https://youtu.be/gPmwn057_20?t=165

Edited by GliderRider on Tuesday 28th July 07:23

Edited by GliderRider on Tuesday 28th July 07:24

That thing just sort of got up and jumped out of the water rather than a takeoff roll, very impressive.

[LukeBrown66]

Anyone remember the Sea Dart, a disastrous attempt to make a jet fighter sea plane, you had to love that era, the Yanks literally tried anything and everything"!!

Sure the was another much bigger American seaplane aswell? Almost ekranpolan like in looks?

[Leon R]

The Spruce Goose?

[Dr Jekyll]

Pedantic point here. But a seaplane has floats as an undercarriage, a flying boat lands on it's hull.