Trump, Covid, US Command & Control
Trump, Covid, US Command & Control
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bitchstewie

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64,412 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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I know there's a thread on Trump but this isn't about the man himself so much as this fascinatingly geeky tweet from a guy who figured he'd tested positive based on some C&C activity.

https://twitter.com/TimInHonolulu/status/131188356...


psgcarey

612 posts

186 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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From the BBC..........

US 'doomsday plane' rumours fly around social media
Alistair Coleman and Christopher Giles

BBC Anti-disinformation unit

President Trump's diagnosis prompted all sorts of unsubstantiated rumours online. One of the scariest was that a US plane that can deliver commands to nuclear missiles was launched because of the news.

One viral tweet claimed that the E-6B Mercury was launched to warn "adversaries" - a show of force to deter a potential attack. The tweet included an image of a flight path over the east coast of America taken from a flight tracking site.

But public flight data shows that E-6B Mercury flights - often called "doomsday planes" - are common, even when the president is well. In fact, they happen about every other day.

The particular plane in question has flown 19 times in the past month. The flight may also be part of a military exercise that was publicly announced by US Strategic Command.

That the latest flight coincided with President Trump's diagnosis seems to be nothing more than a coincidence.

normalbloke

8,512 posts

243 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Yet it allows itself to be tracked....

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

64,412 posts

234 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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psgcarey said:
From the BBC..........

US 'doomsday plane' rumours fly around social media
Alistair Coleman and Christopher Giles

BBC Anti-disinformation unit

President Trump's diagnosis prompted all sorts of unsubstantiated rumours online. One of the scariest was that a US plane that can deliver commands to nuclear missiles was launched because of the news.

One viral tweet claimed that the E-6B Mercury was launched to warn "adversaries" - a show of force to deter a potential attack. The tweet included an image of a flight path over the east coast of America taken from a flight tracking site.

But public flight data shows that E-6B Mercury flights - often called "doomsday planes" - are common, even when the president is well. In fact, they happen about every other day.

The particular plane in question has flown 19 times in the past month. The flight may also be part of a military exercise that was publicly announced by US Strategic Command.

That the latest flight coincided with President Trump's diagnosis seems to be nothing more than a coincidence.
Yes I read that after posting.

I suppose I should have checked whether the guy was inspired or looked back to see if he'd simply posted "Trump's got Covid" every time they went up smile

Condi

19,757 posts

195 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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bhstewie said:
I know there's a thread on Trump but this isn't about the man himself so much as this fascinatingly geeky tweet from a guy who figured he'd tested positive based on some C&C activity.
Sorry, but things like this annoy me and are totally symptomatic of the utterly stupid age we live in whereby everyone can publish whatever st they like without any fact checking or any assumed knowledge, and then every other idiot believes him and reposts it with even less knowledge than the first bloke.

These planes fly frequently, there is a whole squadron of them, and so for him to "assume Trump has Covid" from seeing one in the air must mean he's been checking often enough to know there was one flying at that exact time (coincidentally just before Trump announced a positive test), but not often enough to know that they fly every few days, which is very obviously illogical bullst. Why didnt he post the same tweet earlier in the week when they last flew? Or any time over the last 6 months while they've been in the air? Its sensationalist nonsense posted either by some Walt or some other fking idiot who caught wind of the speculation of Trump's test before he tweeted and has posted that tweet for reasons I (and most other people) can't understand.


Rant over. Twitter has, IMO, a lot to answer for about the state of the modern world.

LotusOmega375D

9,076 posts

177 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Back on 22 September I posted an ADS-B trace of an E6B Mercury in the Boston area on the FR24 thread. That was a long time before Trump contracted Covid-19. They don’t just keep them in service on the off chance that the President might get ill.

IanH755

2,630 posts

144 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Condi said:
bhstewie said:
I know there's a thread on Trump but this isn't about the man himself so much as this fascinatingly geeky tweet from a guy who figured he'd tested positive based on some C&C activity.
Rant over. Twitter has, IMO, a lot to answer for about the state of the modern world.
I expect people on Twitter to be wrong most of the time but what's worse for me is that "The Media" have reprinted this tweet as a "fact" without doing even the most minute amount of fact checking first to find out that it's just another everyday event without specific importance (i.e. the tweet is wrong).

So because "The Media" have reprinted it without fact-checking, normal people have now read the story and started spreading this fake story around with "proof" that it's true because "The Media" have reported on it, leading to a self-sustaining cycle of "Lie - report that Lie is true - mass spreading of lie using report to show it's true - Lie" all happening before the "Truth" gets a chance to be heard.

For the vast majority, being a Western Journalist nowadays just means being a Twitter Bot, repeating what you read on "Trending" whilst being too lazy, stupid and/or incompetent to do any actual "Journalism" to find out if the tweet is true or not, because any delay means another Journalist will get the Ad revenue from "page clicks" first, which apparently is more important now than being the first to report the Facts.