Explorer/trawler yachts

[wickedtopspeed]

Hello,
I would be very grateful for any feedback, or opinions on small (60-70ft) explorer/trawler type yachts.

Want something will amazing seakeeping abilities, long range cruising ability, and comfort. Happy to see parts of the world @ 8 knots !!!

Been looking at s/hand Nordhavn's - second hand values seem very strong as the manufacturers dealer network seem to have the market sown up.

Any experience welcomed, or suggestions for alternatives gratefully received.

Thank you in advance.

[Yacht Broker]

Taking a different tack....

https://www.grabauinternational.com/brokerage/oliv...

[ReverendCounter]

As an alternative, Branson Boat Design is a UK designer and seller of steel kit boats, with three trawler/passagemaker types in the range:

https://www.dutch-barges.net/coaster.html

https://www.dutch-barges.net/passagemaker.html

https://www.dutch-barges.net/trawler.html

(never even seen one in the flesh, never mind set foot aboard. I just happened to save a bookmark when I was dreaming about dutch barges one day)

[db]

wickedtopspeed said:

Hello,
I would be very grateful for any feedback, or opinions on small (60-70ft) explorer/trawler type yachts.

Want something will amazing seakeeping abilities, long range cruising ability, and comfort. Happy to see parts of the world @ 8 knots !!!

Been looking at s/hand Nordhavn's - second hand values seem very strong as the manufacturers dealer network seem to have the market sown up.

Any experience welcomed, or suggestions for alternatives gratefully received.

Thank you in advance.

Not sure if this is the sort of info you're looking for, but this couple have a few videos of their liveabord trawler type yacht.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CruisingSeaVenture/featu...

[jimothyc]

There's a few tours of trawler yachts and others on this Youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCitH5iJ0s-YwbuAg3... But I expect you've watched all these already.

Good luck in your search, not jealous at all.

[SimonTheSailor]

Yacht Broker said:

Taking a different tack....

https://www.grabauinternational.com/brokerage/oliv...

Damn, tax hasn't been paid - would have had that !!

[ecsrobin]

ReverendCounter said:

As an alternative, Branson Boat Design is a UK designer and seller of steel kit boats, with three trawler/passagemaker types in the range:

https://www.dutch-barges.net/coaster.html

https://www.dutch-barges.net/passagemaker.html

https://www.dutch-barges.net/trawler.html

(never even seen one in the flesh, never mind set foot aboard. I just happened to save a bookmark when I was dreaming about dutch barges one day)

Do people actually buy these??? Imagine telling your friends you had a boat and inviting the down “I’ll pick you up from the fish market dock” Nordhavn’s look far nicer despite being a trawler based design.

[wickedtopspeed]

Yacht Broker said:

Taking a different tack....

https://www.grabauinternational.com/brokerage/oliv...

Not my cup of tea I'm afraid. But please do bear me in mind if you come across anything more Nordhavn like !

[wickedtopspeed]

ecsrobin said:

Do people actually buy these??? Imagine telling your friends you had a boat and inviting the down “I’ll pick you up from the fish market dock” Nordhavn’s look far nicer despite being a trawler based design.

Agree - though the idea of custom building an aluminium hulled trawler yacht may not be so silly.

[PushedDover]

Power vs. Sail do we assume ?

[robm3]

A friend of mine brought a Azimut Magellano 53 in China/HK as part of a syndicate.
I was interested in the experience as I rather fancied one myself.

They had a lot of minor teething issues with the fitout initially but all were rectified by the dealer. He also specced it incorrectly (his own admission) by putting in a downstairs lounge instead of an extra cabin (i'm going to say it was a two cabin layout instead of three but may be wrong here, can't recall specifics).

Anyhow, they never took it any rough waters so can't comment on seaworthiness but overall they really enjoyed it. They had the pod drive system with joystick so could move it around, dock, refuel with only two onboard, a big positive (although they also had a part time skipper for other less capable syndicate members).

I still think these Magellano's look fantastic but personally I prefer the S6 from the Azimut range.

As a side note, I own a couple of companies, and with all the cash washing around these days I've had a couple of large offers on one, I'm seriously considering taking the offer, getting a new(ish) vessel around 40-60ft and doing the East Coast of Italy for a year.

[808 Estate]

I'd go with Vripak. Cloggies know how to weld boats.
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1998/vripack-tr...
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2004/vripack-69...

Or an Altena if you want something a touch more reasonable in the wallet department.
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1999/altena-blu...
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2007/altena-53-...
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2008/altena-blu...

If your spending trousers have good pockets De Alm are also rather good.
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2009/de-alm-del...
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2012/de-alm-del...
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2008/de-alm-del...

Bering 65 for a slightly leftfield option.
https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2013/bering-65-...

Edited by 808 Estate on Saturday 3rd April 20:58

[SimonTheSailor]

robm3 said:

.... and doing the East Coast of Italy for a year.

Interested to know why ? I spoke to an Italian couple once in Preveza who describe the east coast as 'st' and not worth worrying about !!

[wickedtopspeed]

Thanks for your help & input so far.

Still hunting, and have messages out for a number of sales people from certain manufacturers to try and progress 2 options.

Please keep suggestions coming in the meantime.

[Audis5b9]

Whats the rough budget?

If you have deep pockets... http://www.findaboat.co.uk/xml-boats-for-sale/boat...

[wickedtopspeed]

Depends on the day of the week !!! probably 1m
No understanding of how they retain value/at what stage in their product life they need significant expenditure etc.


Does anyone know a nice broker who will give honest opinions ?

[Audis5b9]

wickedtopspeed said:

Depends on the day of the week !!! probably 1m
No understanding of how they retain value/at what stage in their product life they need significant expenditure etc.


Does anyone know a nice broker who will give honest opinions ?

DM sent

[ecsrobin]

wickedtopspeed said:

Does anyone know a nice broker who will give honest opinions ?

Adrian from Nicolle Associates (the link posted above or below) I haven’t purchased from him but know him from sailing and would recommend.

Audis5b9 said:

Whats the rough budget?

If you have deep pockets... http://www.findaboat.co.uk/xml-boats-for-sale/boat...

[Audis5b9]

ecsrobin said:

wickedtopspeed said:

Does anyone know a nice broker who will give honest opinions ?

Adrian from Nicolle Associates (the link posted above or below) I haven’t purchased from him but know him from sailing and would recommend.

Audis5b9 said:

Whats the rough budget?

If you have deep pockets... http://www.findaboat.co.uk/xml-boats-for-sale/boat...

I'd recommend him too... he is my boss after all.

[robm3]

SimonTheSailor said:

robm3 said:

.... and doing the East Coast of Italy for a year.

Interested to know why ? I spoke to an Italian couple once in Preveza who describe the east coast as 'st' and not worth worrying about !!

Ah, sorry, I made a mistake, the couple you met are correct. I meant West Coast of Italy/ Northern Med.
And that's because I used to have a factory in Nice, France and I'm familiar with the Northern end of the Med. Plus the Azimut collection point is West Coast Italy.
Anyhow, not for a few years so as you were