Addenbrooke's Hospital Helipad destroyed by US Osprey
Addenbrooke's Hospital Helipad destroyed by US Osprey
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bitchstewie

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Bill

57,356 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Oops! Presumably that's just the surface?

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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They’ll be dining out on that story for years!

Krikkit

27,838 posts

204 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Wonder who OK'd that without checking?

Hardly seems worthy of the title "destroyed", it's just some lock-together matting that needs putting back down.

Trevor555

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107 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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I know zero about flying things, but could that have been a lot more serious?

Could the matting flying around gone somewhere it shouldn't?

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Trevor555 said:
I know zero about flying things, but could that have been a lot more serious?

Could the matting flying around gone somewhere it shouldn't?
In a more enclosed space, easily. Thankfully the Osprey tends to blow debris away anyway.

sherman

14,904 posts

238 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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US army engineers working overtime tonight I assume hehe

abzmike

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129 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Is that matting that they should have landed on top of to prevent sinking into the grass, rather than next to?
Either way, might have been an idea to fasten it down somehow.

Tony1963

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185 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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abzmike said:
Is that matting that they should have landed on top of to prevent sinking into the grass, rather than next to?
Either way, might have been an idea to fasten it down somehow.
V22: Max take off weight 22 tons ish.
Air ambulance: maximum take off weight 3 tons?

As long as the Osprey doesn’t need to visit again, it doesn’t matter.

Mars

9,938 posts

237 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Isn't claiming air ambulances can no longer land there because the previous pristine surface is damaged ignoring the whole USP of a helicopter to land almost anywhere?

abzmike

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129 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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Tony1963 said:
V22: Max take off weight 22 tons ish.
Air ambulance: maximum take off weight 3 tons?

As long as the Osprey doesn’t need to visit again, it doesn’t matter.
Apparently a training trip so presumably they might need to go there again.

sunbeam alpine

7,223 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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abzmike said:
Tony1963 said:
V22: Max take off weight 22 tons ish.
Air ambulance: maximum take off weight 3 tons?

As long as the Osprey doesn’t need to visit again, it doesn’t matter.
Apparently a training trip so presumably they might need to go there again.
I'm sure they'll roll out the red carpet...





oh, hang on...

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Thursday 22nd April 2021
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abzmike said:
Apparently a training trip so presumably they might need to go there again.
My guess is there’ll be an agreement between Addenbrookes and the USAF. The USAF really doesn’t like negative press in the local area.

wolfracesonic

8,898 posts

150 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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sherman said:
US army engineers working overtime tonight I assume hehe
Wouldn’t US Army engineers be more likely to say ‘fk off , fix it yourself’ to the US Air Force.

srob

12,348 posts

261 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Mars said:
Isn't claiming air ambulances can no longer land there because the previous pristine surface is damaged ignoring the whole USP of a helicopter to land almost anywhere?
I think it's more that they don't have a nice smooth path for the ambulances to go meet it. Guess it needs to be really close to the hospital, not rough and with easy access!

TEKNOPUG

20,280 posts

228 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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How did they land the on the helipad in the first place without causing similar damage?

srob

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261 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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TEKNOPUG said:
How did they land the on the helipad in the first place without causing similar damage?
It's on the video. I'm no expert but I assume the power to get the initial lift-off is way more severe than coming in to land?

Watching the video though, there's a strip of the cladding or whatever it is that comes away while they're still firmly on the ground. They carry on powering up and then eventually the rest tears up.

I think if I'd have seen the first bit go I'd have thought "hmm, might have to check this before putting full power down" hehe

TEKNOPUG

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228 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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srob said:
It's on the video. I'm no expert but I assume the power to get the initial lift-off is way more severe than coming in to land?

Watching the video though, there's a strip of the cladding or whatever it is that comes away while they're still firmly on the ground. They carry on powering up and then eventually the rest tears up.

I think if I'd have seen the first bit go I'd have thought "hmm, might have to check this before putting full power down" hehe
What's on the video?

Eric Mc

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288 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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Part of the reason of the visit was to assess the feasibility of using the Osprey for medical flights to Addenbrookes. It turns out that the existing, fairly cheap and cheerful helipad wasn't up to the take off downwash of an Osprey.
Maybe Addenbrookes will need to splash out on an actual tarmac or concrete pad. When you see the huge amount of development that has gone on all around the Addenbrooke site, adding a more substantial and permanent helipad would be a drop in the ocean cost wise.

srob

12,348 posts

261 months

Friday 23rd April 2021
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TEKNOPUG said:
srob said:
It's on the video. I'm no expert but I assume the power to get the initial lift-off is way more severe than coming in to land?

Watching the video though, there's a strip of the cladding or whatever it is that comes away while they're still firmly on the ground. They carry on powering up and then eventually the rest tears up.

I think if I'd have seen the first bit go I'd have thought "hmm, might have to check this before putting full power down" hehe
What's on the video?
It cruises in and lands normally with minimal wash - hence my assumption that there isn't as much turbulence when they're not lifting off...