HMS Ark Royal - Hands to Flying Stations!
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Awesome, thanks.
My dad was a CPO on the Ark in 75, I’ll ask him if he remembers the filming, I’ll put this on the TV during the weekend so he can have a look, who knows he might recognise a few faces!.
He told me about the “goofing” deck, an area where non deck crew could watch the planes taking off and landing. He also said his cabin was near one of the lifts , moaned the bloody thing was noisy as hell, he ended up wearing ear defenders in order to get a good nights sleep lol. He definitely remembers the phantoms being on board.
My dad was a CPO on the Ark in 75, I’ll ask him if he remembers the filming, I’ll put this on the TV during the weekend so he can have a look, who knows he might recognise a few faces!.
He told me about the “goofing” deck, an area where non deck crew could watch the planes taking off and landing. He also said his cabin was near one of the lifts , moaned the bloody thing was noisy as hell, he ended up wearing ear defenders in order to get a good nights sleep lol. He definitely remembers the phantoms being on board.
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.
I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
s2kjock said:
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.
I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
More powerful engines, and take-off ramps at a guess.I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
I was struck by how small AR looked.
I had this on my bedroom wall as a kid.

Ayahuasca said:
s2kjock said:
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.
I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
More powerful engines, and take-off ramps at a guess.I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.
Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
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The Ark, Eagle and some of the older ex-WW2 USN carriers used up into the 1970's, that flew F-8's, A-7's etc off were small and it gave the aircraft a high angle of attack during launch and helped the aircraft get clear of the bridle at the end of the launch stroke....and the A-4 Skyhawk had a distinctly longer nose wheel oleo for the same reason.
The F-4 actually had an extending nose wheel oleo to jack the nose up instead...like this.

I really enjoyed that....
Youtube recommended this too, which was also a great watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1LF2I3fTbY
Youtube recommended this too, which was also a great watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1LF2I3fTbY
aeropilot said:
The F4K had a unique double-extending nosewheel to jack up the nose a fair bit more than the standard F4s (but you knew that anyway
) What I don't know is whether the F4M also had this feature... research suddenly needed.
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