HMS Ark Royal - Hands to Flying Stations!
HMS Ark Royal - Hands to Flying Stations!
Author
Discussion

shed driver

Original Poster:

2,899 posts

183 months

Sunday 16th May 2021
quotequote all

texaxile

3,661 posts

173 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
Awesome, thanks.

My dad was a CPO on the Ark in 75, I’ll ask him if he remembers the filming, I’ll put this on the TV during the weekend so he can have a look, who knows he might recognise a few faces!.
He told me about the “goofing” deck, an area where non deck crew could watch the planes taking off and landing. He also said his cabin was near one of the lifts , moaned the bloody thing was noisy as hell, he ended up wearing ear defenders in order to get a good nights sleep lol. He definitely remembers the phantoms being on board.

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
Can anyone explain the complicated launching bridle - seems to involve bits of string?

s2kjock

1,821 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.

I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.

Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?

Ayahuasca

27,560 posts

302 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
s2kjock said:
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.

I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.

Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
More powerful engines, and take-off ramps at a guess.

I was struck by how small AR looked.

I had this on my bedroom wall as a kid.




aeropilot

39,737 posts

250 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
Ayahuasca said:
s2kjock said:
Brilliant - love seeing Buccaneers having grown up in the North of Scotland and seeing them flying around a lot there.

I didn't realise they operated with the Phantom at the same time.

Also never seen the nose of the aircraft being raised in that way for take off - I presume to increase lift, but what are the reasons that is no longer done if it made sense back then?
More powerful engines, and take-off ramps at a guess.
[/pic]
Just bigger carriers.

The Ark, Eagle and some of the older ex-WW2 USN carriers used up into the 1970's, that flew F-8's, A-7's etc off were small and it gave the aircraft a high angle of attack during launch and helped the aircraft get clear of the bridle at the end of the launch stroke....and the A-4 Skyhawk had a distinctly longer nose wheel oleo for the same reason.
The F-4 actually had an extending nose wheel oleo to jack the nose up instead...like this.




DavieBNL

307 posts

86 months

Tuesday 18th May 2021
quotequote all
Great picture; great aircraft.

velocemitch

4,019 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
quotequote all
Loved that, thanks for sharing it.

ClaphamGT3

12,038 posts

266 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
quotequote all
Well worth watching the 'Sailor' series from 1976, which is all up on YouTube. The second episode, "The squadrons are coming" focuses on the intricacies of flying off carriers.

CloudStuff

4,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
quotequote all
I really enjoyed that....

Youtube recommended this too, which was also a great watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1LF2I3fTbY

Yertis

19,546 posts

289 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
quotequote all
aeropilot said:
The F-4 actually had an extending nose wheel oleo to jack the nose up instead...like this.

The F4K had a unique double-extending nosewheel to jack up the nose a fair bit more than the standard F4s (but you knew that anyway wink )

What I don't know is whether the F4M also had this feature... research suddenly needed.

LP12

257 posts

59 months

Wednesday 19th May 2021
quotequote all
Yertis said:
What I don't know is whether the F4M also had this feature.
No, the F4M / FGR2 did not have the extending nosewheel leg.