F-35 from HMS Queen Elizabeth makes an emergency landing
F-35 from HMS Queen Elizabeth makes an emergency landing
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craig1912

Original Poster:

4,367 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st June 2021
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https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/defence/f-35-bel...

One way of getting there “under the radar”🤣

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/f-35-from-hms-quee...



FR showed it as Netherlands AF but it’s got US markings in the photos.

s2kjock

1,821 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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If it did "run out of fuel" as the story suggests, is airport jet fuel the same stuff the military would use so in theory they could top up and be on their way?

Obviously after taking the opportunity to empty the heads, restock the catering trollies, and send your luggage to the Prince of Wales.

shouldbworking

4,791 posts

235 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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s2kjock said:
If it did "run out of fuel" as the story suggests, is airport jet fuel the same stuff the military would use so in theory they could top up and be on their way?

Obviously after taking the opportunity to empty the heads, restock the catering trollies, and send your luggage to the Prince of Wales.
It won't be fuel. With the flat tyre, I'd wager it's as simple as 'damn, got a flat.. shall I land on the small, moving aircraft carrier, or the large, static airfield?' ..

The interesting bit we won't find out is why it got a flat.. FOD? lift fan issues seem unlikely to be suitable for a divert like that.. could something get slurped through the lift fan and pinged out into the tyre at speed, without harming the fan?

RizzoTheRat

28,115 posts

215 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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You'd think the F35 is of the few aeroplanes where landing with a flat tyre shouldn't be a problem biggrin. As above though I guess there's the question of did whatever cause it also cause some damage to something else. I'd have thought a lift fan issue would be one of the best reasons for diverting to somewhere you can make a conventional landing rather than a vertical landing.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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Hmm what’s that rumble, let’s just go to Ibiza.

4 hours later.


Simpo Two

91,364 posts

288 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2021
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El stovey said:
FR showed it as Netherlands AF but it’s got US markings in the photos.
And from a British ship... all designed to confuse the enemy who won't know whether to shoot at it or not, very clever!

aeropilot

39,736 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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El stovey said:
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/f-35-from-hms-quee...



FR showed it as Netherlands AF but it’s got US markings in the photos.
That's because there are more USMC F-35B (from VFMA-211) onboard Queen Liz than our own ones, well, there was until this one took a sightseeing detour.

swampy442

1,830 posts

234 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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shouldbworking said:
. could something get slurped through the lift fan and pinged out into the tyre at speed, without harming the fan?
Anything big enough to burst a tyre would definitely destroy the lift fan on the way through

KieronGSi

1,114 posts

227 months

Thursday 3rd June 2021
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s2kjock said:
If it did "run out of fuel" as the story suggests, is airport jet fuel the same stuff the military would use so in theory they could top up and be on their way?

Obviously after taking the opportunity to empty the heads, restock the catering trollies, and send your luggage to the Prince of Wales.
I think the only difference between Jet A-1 (commercial) and the UK F34 (military) is that F34 has FSII (fuel systems icing inhibitor) mixed in. Not to sure if the American JP-8 has any additives in though.

Cold

16,415 posts

113 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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C-17 delivers spare parts to fix plane.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/c-17-flies-parts-t...

Condi

19,712 posts

194 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Cold said:
C-17 delivers spare parts to fix plane.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/c-17-flies-parts-t...
Wouldn't DHL have been cheaper?


Eric Mc

124,807 posts

288 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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They would have thrown it over the fence or left a card saying nobody was in.

Condi

19,712 posts

194 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Wasn't suggesting they use Hermes!

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

224 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Condi said:
Wasn't suggesting they use Hermes!
Just as well - the Indians are in the process of scrapping her !

MonkeyBusiness

4,197 posts

210 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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El stovey said:
Hmm what’s that rumble, let’s just go to Ibiza.

4 hours later.

laugh

aeropilot

39,736 posts

250 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Cold said:
C-17 delivers spare parts to fix plane.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/c-17-flies-parts-t...
They've done well to find the spare parts in just a week.....given some of the stories surrounding spare parts or lack of, available for the F-35.


Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Why not deliver spares from the ship?

aeropilot

39,736 posts

250 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
Why not deliver spares from the ship?
I suspect if it needs a C-17 there's a high probability, said spare part is a F-135, in which case we don't have a way of getting one of them on/off the one of our carrier's if its at sea, as it won't fit in a Merlin.


Cold

16,415 posts

113 months

Monday 7th June 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
Why not deliver spares from the ship?
It's what 99 Sqn do. Delivery runs is why they exist. "You call, we haul!"
This run included equipment and techies

The F35 hasn't been left alone since its landing. Spares and personnel have been ferried out from HMS QNLZ too. It seems the problem is more involved than simply changing a flat tyre.