When Britain 'nuked' America
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Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
My dad would have loved to watch this. He was really into aeroplanes, particularly the Vulcan and Victor bombers.
He was in the Royal Observer Corps and when we went on holiday when I was a kid it was usually next to a RAF airfield so he could spend a day or two watching the planes! He always insisted the RAF were top notch and way above the Americans. No idea if that’s the case.
I got a wee lump in my throat when I spotted the upload date though, 18th September 2020. The day he died.
He was in the Royal Observer Corps and when we went on holiday when I was a kid it was usually next to a RAF airfield so he could spend a day or two watching the planes! He always insisted the RAF were top notch and way above the Americans. No idea if that’s the case.
I got a wee lump in my throat when I spotted the upload date though, 18th September 2020. The day he died.
heisthegaffer said:
Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I was reading a story the other day about an Aus sub sneaking through US defences to 'sink' the destroyer target on a recent exercise. I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.

heisthegaffer said:
Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I think someone on here shared a video recently talking about the bucs on a red flag in the states flying so low the f14s couldn’t shoot them down, they even recreated it on some simulation, amazing I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
Boom78 said:
heisthegaffer said:
Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I think someone on here shared a video recently talking about the bucs on a red flag in the states flying so low the f14s couldn’t shoot them down, they even recreated it on some simulation, amazing I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
Ayahuasca said:
Boom78 said:
heisthegaffer said:
Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I think someone on here shared a video recently talking about the bucs on a red flag in the states flying so low the f14s couldn’t shoot them down, they even recreated it on some simulation, amazing I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
https://youtu.be/2EwIwE7cjds
A supersonic aircraft such as an F-14 is designed to fly supersonic at high altitude. In the thick soup that is the lower atmosphere, they struggle and drink fuel. A Bucc was designed to fly at transonic speeds. It’s a slippery bugger at Mach 0.95, and economical as well as highly manoeuvrable.
If you set an F-18 after a Hunter flown by Lorti in Canada, the Hunter will plummet to a few hundred feet and be gone. Funny.
If you set an F-18 after a Hunter flown by Lorti in Canada, the Hunter will plummet to a few hundred feet and be gone. Funny.
AW111 said:
heisthegaffer said:
Cheers OP.
I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.
I was reading a story the other day about an Aus sub sneaking through US defences to 'sink' the destroyer target on a recent exercise. I loved reading about the red flag exercises out in the US. We were a cheeky bunch like when we had two Buccaneers under a Vulcan that evaded radar and carried ont to attack the target after the Vulcan had been 'shot down'.
Also there was the Vulcan flying so low, when it banked, it left a groove in the desert.

Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
Talksteer said:
Bare in mind exercises are generally set up so something happens, one side will always get sunk.
Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
I can see that.Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
This one was pass through a choke point and photograph the target.
Then broadcast "land down under" at full volume through the hull.
The cook was instructed to be "a noisy bugger" at the start of the exercise, the crew were heavy-footed, etc., then they went silent at the opposition watch change.
I can go find the clip if anyone's interested.
AW111 said:
Talksteer said:
Bare in mind exercises are generally set up so something happens, one side will always get sunk.
Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
I can see that.Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
This one was pass through a choke point and photograph the target.
Then broadcast "land down under" at full volume through the hull.
The cook was instructed to be "a noisy bugger" at the start of the exercise, the crew were heavy-footed, etc., then they went silent at the opposition watch change.
I can go find the clip if anyone's interested.
louiechevy said:
That noise …AW111 said:
Talksteer said:
Bare in mind exercises are generally set up so something happens, one side will always get sunk.
Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
I can see that.Top defence against a diesel electric boat is just to move around more often and faster than it can follow
This one was pass through a choke point and photograph the target.
Then broadcast "land down under" at full volume through the hull.
The cook was instructed to be "a noisy bugger" at the start of the exercise, the crew were heavy-footed, etc., then they went silent at the opposition watch change.
I can go find the clip if anyone's interested.
(got a feeling I posted the same clip in the Submarine thread!)
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