Ribs used by illegal channel crossers
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DonkeyApple said:
Those images looked like it was mostly SIBs rather than RIBs. Quite a mix as well. Probably a mix of stolen, bought and made to order. Most probably proceeds of crime etc and few with any regulatory details. I imagine the best thing is to destroy them.
Most other property collected by dibble which cannot be returned to its rightful owner is auctioned off periodically, why would these be any different?akirk said:
According to various news outlets the police are actively buying them up as well to push up the price and make it tricky for smugglers to buy them - not sure that is the most thought through policy… if you have a rib unattended- watch out!
Police 'thick as mince' shocker. These boats cost a few hundred quid on Alibaba and can also be sourced from absolutely anywhere between here and China and stuck in a lorry and the victims are paying many thousands to cross. If it's remotely true that the police are doing this then they need to be fired for gross negligence and wasting taxpayer money.
It's so dumb it's impossible to begin to believe. But then I have memories of a policeman coming to the property in London after a burglary and watching him outside No 27 on the other side of the street when he was supposed to be at No 16 and when I called him to point this out he was absolutely adamant he was outside No16 and kept up the stupidness until after I had collected him and escorted him across the road to where he needed to be. 14 years a police office and thick as mince. It's not a profession that draws from the best and brightest.
hidetheelephants said:
Most other property collected by dibble which cannot be returned to its rightful owner is auctioned off periodically, why would these be any different?
How do you check the conformity of these SIBs? When auctioning off ceased and unclaimed property those goods need to be verified. If you don't know whether the boat was constructed to meet the right requirements then you can't sell them on to punters. It's not Dagenham Market 
Cheaper and safer to destroy them.
DonkeyApple said:
akirk said:
According to various news outlets the police are actively buying them up as well to push up the price and make it tricky for smugglers to buy them - not sure that is the most thought through policy… if you have a rib unattended- watch out!
Police 'thick as mince' shocker. These boats cost a few hundred quid on Alibaba and can also be sourced from absolutely anywhere between here and China and stuck in a lorry and the victims are paying many thousands to cross. If it's remotely true that the police are doing this then they need to be fired for gross negligence and wasting taxpayer money.
It's so dumb it's impossible to begin to believe. But then I have memories of a policeman coming to the property in London after a burglary and watching him outside No 27 on the other side of the street when he was supposed to be at No 16 and when I called him to point this out he was absolutely adamant he was outside No16 and kept up the stupidness until after I had collected him and escorted him across the road to where he needed to be. 14 years a police office and thick as mince. It's not a profession that draws from the best and brightest.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/27/police...
considering that the smugglers have zero interest in safety - stories of using blow up pool rings as life jackets / motors which don't work properly / etc. = I suspect that they will not care about buying correctly categorised off-shore ribs etc. - anything that floats will do - so agree, it will do very little to stop them...
That's just bloody stupid. Trying to corner a limitless market and one where any inflation is pushed onto the consumer.
These SIBs cost a few hundred quid from China and the punters are paying £3-6k for them. That's not a market you can ever corner or even come close to impacting by sitting on eBay and bidding up Western used prices in an already inflated market due to COVID demand.
One can only hope that they aren't that thick and are in fact just using taxpayer money to get themselves a nice boat for the summer hols.
These SIBs cost a few hundred quid from China and the punters are paying £3-6k for them. That's not a market you can ever corner or even come close to impacting by sitting on eBay and bidding up Western used prices in an already inflated market due to COVID demand.
One can only hope that they aren't that thick and are in fact just using taxpayer money to get themselves a nice boat for the summer hols.
The RHIB's are stored securely by the criminal prosecution side of Border Force, who have primacy in dealing with small boat crossings. They are all evidential and may be required in any future prosecutions.
No one is attempting to buy up RHIB's as far as I'm aware, least of all the police who, apart from dealing with beach landings as a matter of public safety have bugger all to do with small boats, that's just a fantasy dreamed up by the media..
No one is attempting to buy up RHIB's as far as I'm aware, least of all the police who, apart from dealing with beach landings as a matter of public safety have bugger all to do with small boats, that's just a fantasy dreamed up by the media..
croyde said:
I'm thinking of nipping down to Dover and grabbing one to head back to France so I can see family on the continent.
Seems odd that we are effectively trapped here yet all and sundry can just sail in.
Let's not get hysterical. Seems odd that we are effectively trapped here yet all and sundry can just sail in.
. We aren't exactly trapped and if we were it's hardly a terrible place to be. . Plus, those dinghies don't make the crossing, they just need to make it to the first British ship, in British waters and they are collected less than half way across. However, if you want to swap your life for theirs then I'm pretty confident you'd be able to make a deal.
Ultimately, these people have made it over thousands of miles in the crappiest way possible. Grafters who will do whatever it takes to raise their family. What we should really be doing as soon as the land is getting them into pubs to learn proper English customs and language ASAP and then getting them into schools to raise their academic levels and then releasing them into society to pay as much tax as possible. Meanwhile, for each family in we air drop one of our less successful home grown families into Syria or Africa so they can start a new and better life where they belong.
Craigyp79 said:
The RHIB's are stored securely by the criminal prosecution side of Border Force, who have primacy in dealing with small boat crossings. They are all evidential and may be required in any future prosecutions.
No one is attempting to buy up RHIB's as far as I'm aware, least of all the police who, apart from dealing with beach landings as a matter of public safety have bugger all to do with small boats, that's just a fantasy dreamed up by the media..
There was an article suggesting the boats were being bought miles away from the Channel. Turkey and other places. The engines are bought in bulk separately apparently.No one is attempting to buy up RHIB's as far as I'm aware, least of all the police who, apart from dealing with beach landings as a matter of public safety have bugger all to do with small boats, that's just a fantasy dreamed up by the media..
DonkeyApple said:
hidetheelephants said:
Most other property collected by dibble which cannot be returned to its rightful owner is auctioned off periodically, why would these be any different?
How do you check the conformity of these SIBs? When auctioning off ceased and unclaimed property those goods need to be verified. If you don't know whether the boat was constructed to meet the right requirements then you can't sell them on to punters. It's not Dagenham Market Cheaper and safer to destroy them.
Condi said:
Craigyp79 said:
They are all evidential and may be required in any future prosecutions.
Is there actually any benefit to keeping the physical item, rather than just a photo? Must be costing quite a bit of money to store them for months/years. Gassing Station | Boats, Planes & Trains | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff