level crossing crash
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saaby93

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Thursday 19th August 2021
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saaby93

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Whatsmyname

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Friday 20th August 2021
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It default high risk as there it is just gates and signage.

Probably thought he could drive over to the other gate and then open it.




Countdown

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219 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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So what happened?

Did the Tractor break down or something?

P5BNij

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129 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Countdown said:
So what happened?

Did the Tractor break down or something?
I've heard on the railway grapevine that the tractor driver opened the first gate then drove straight onto the crossing without opening the opposite gate first to give himself an escape route. Happy to be corrected though. Thankfully the train driver managed to get out of the cab and into the passageway behind in good time. Sadly it happens all too often. The one part of my job I loath is level crossings and foot crossings, I've had too many near misses.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 23 August 12:52

Bacon Is Proof

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254 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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anonymous said:
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"Dead man's handle", though I believe in UK trains it is a foot pedal.

Mr Whippy

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264 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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In the late 80s or early 90s when I was about 10yr old, in the summer holidays getting straw near the East Coast Main Line, my brothers and I would go watch trains.
Intercity 125s in particular were always exciting.

One farmer level crossing had really good sight lines, and a small warning buzzer/light so we knew to keep a look out for a train coming.

One day the lady farmer came to the crossing, said how dangerous it was and never to cross over, then the warnings came on, she opened the gates, went across in her old tractor, then the train came about 5 seconds later as she was closing the other gate hehe

I feel sorry for the train drivers.

P5BNij

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129 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Bacon Is Proof said:
anonymous said:
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"Dead man's handle", though I believe in UK trains it is a foot pedal.
In this case the driver had time to hit the emergency brake plunger before bolting for the cab door behind him.

Pothole

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305 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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User worked crossing...

john_1983

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171 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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If the story above is true and the farmer has caused this crash through what is in effect negligence, is he likely to be sued or charged for this?

What he's (allegedly) done is very dangerous and also very costly

MitchT

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232 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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john_1983 said:
If the story above is true and the farmer has caused this crash through what is in effect negligence, is he likely to be sued or charged for this?
I imagine the driver of the tractor will be charged with a motoring offence and the insurer of the farm vehicle will have to meet the cost of damage caused to the train and railway infrastructure. In the case of the Great Heck rail disaster near Selby, in which a vehicle left the M62 motorway and ended up on the East Coast Mail Line, resulting in the subsequent derailment of a high speed passenger train and its subsequent collision with an oncoming freight train, the driver of the vehicle was found guilty of ten counts of causing death by dangerous driving, while his insurer had to pay out £22m.

P5BNij

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Wednesday 25th August 2021
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MitchT said:
john_1983 said:
If the story above is true and the farmer has caused this crash through what is in effect negligence, is he likely to be sued or charged for this?
I imagine the driver of the tractor will be charged with a motoring offence and the insurer of the farm vehicle will have to meet the cost of damage caused to the train and railway infrastructure. In the case of the Great Heck rail disaster near Selby, in which a vehicle left the M62 motorway and ended up on the East Coast Mail Line, resulting in the subsequent derailment of a high speed passenger train and its subsequent collision with an oncoming freight train, the driver of the vehicle was found guilty of ten counts of causing death by dangerous driving, while his insurer had to pay out £22m.
Sadly the scrote who caused the Selby disaster still thinks he did no wrong.

Going back to the subject of the thread - having looked at the photos taken on site the train driver did well to hit the plunger and dive for the interior cab door immediately behind his seat, the two cabs on a Class 66 loco are laid out differently, the number one end cab has two interior access doors at either end of the bulkhead, whereas the number two end cab has just one in the middle.

saaby93

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Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Whats the plans for light assisted crossings on these?
Train within range - red , otherwise green

Leptons

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199 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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P5BNij said:
I've heard on the railway grapevine that the tractor driver opened the first gate then drove straight onto the crossing without opening the opposite gate first to give himself an escape route. Happy to be corrected though. Thankfully the train driver managed to get out of the cab and into the passageway behind in good time. Sadly it happens all too often. The one part of my job I loath is level crossings and foot crossings, I've had too many near misses.


Edited by P5BNij on Monday 23 August 12:52
It sort of begs the question, why not drive through the gate? Smashed gate V derailed train, tough choice nuts

t400ble

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144 months

Wednesday 25th August 2021
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Didnt see the train at that point

Pothole

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305 months

Thursday 26th August 2021
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Leptons said:
It sort of begs the question, why not drive through the gate? Smashed gate V derailed train, tough choice nuts
If you're stupid enough to misuse the crossing, you're not capable of quick decision making, perhaps?