Disabling an aircraft
Discussion
ianrb said:
Western forces exiting Afganistan have disabled any aircraft left behind. Presumably to the point where they cannot be returned to service.
Given the time constraints how would they have done that?
Anything from removing a few cables to smashing up the flight deck to high explosives...Given the time constraints how would they have done that?
Evanivitch said:
Anything from removing a few cables to smashing up the flight deck to high explosives...
None of the news footage I've seen showed any aircraft with signs of explosion damage, and removing cables sounds a bit too easily reversable.I lack the technical knowlege to do much else, so I'd rely on petrol & matches.
ianrb said:
None of the news footage I've seen showed any aircraft with signs of explosion damage, and removing cables sounds a bit too easily reversable.
I lack the technical knowlege to do much else, so I'd rely on petrol & matches.
These wouldn't be simple cables. Some of them have upto 50 pins in them, and the connector shells themselves would set you back several hundred quid. Without schematics, it's quite a lengthy job to reverse engineer them.I lack the technical knowlege to do much else, so I'd rely on petrol & matches.
All depends what the end outcome is. If it's to deny, destroy or immobilise.
Evanivitch said:
ianrb said:
None of the news footage I've seen showed any aircraft with signs of explosion damage, and removing cables sounds a bit too easily reversable.
I lack the technical knowlege to do much else, so I'd rely on petrol & matches.
These wouldn't be simple cables. Some of them have upto 50 pins in them, and the connector shells themselves would set you back several hundred quid. Without schematics, it's quite a lengthy job to reverse engineer them.I lack the technical knowlege to do much else, so I'd rely on petrol & matches.
All depends what the end outcome is. If it's to deny, destroy or immobilise.
Evanivitch said:
mcdjl said:
Or just switch left/right/up/down/forward/back over so that when someone tries to use it they lose a pilot as well?
Keyways to stop the 18yr olds doing this straight out of trade training 
Tony1963 said:
Just remember that the Iranians managed to keep some nifty F-14s flying for quite a few years with no support from the factory. These people aren’t stupid.
The Iranians are indeed not.But, there's a gulf between the Iranians and the Afgans by all accounts......they were struggling when they had US contractor support to oversea everything.
However, if China sends in a lot of people to help them, then that's a different situation.
Without that, the Afgans might get those Hinds back in the air (as they can be fixed with a hammer) maybe that C-130...but its seems the Hughes attack choppers were grounded a few weeks ago, as they had run out of rockets and ammo.....which is why some of them headed across the border as they had a/c but no munitions to fit to them, so it seems as the US support reduced back to a circle around Kabul the supply lines stopped to the forces beyond.
I don't think what has been left behind is of much concern tbh. The lack of any further C-17 coming in with pallets of dollars in cash to keep the country going is probably a more pressing problem.
The warlords will be diving up everything between them all now anyway, as the old system of barter and exchange etc is implimented for survival.
Gary C said:
Electrics can be repaired, connectors might be 'expensive' but you can sort them.
I bet they have taken a hacksaw to significant parts of the airframe, rotors etc.
Maybe a gas axe on a wing spar, or on a row of fan blades in each engine.
Pffft, fix all that with a roll of black nasty and sikaflex.I bet they have taken a hacksaw to significant parts of the airframe, rotors etc.
Maybe a gas axe on a wing spar, or on a row of fan blades in each engine.
Lord Marylebone said:
Surely by far the easiest and most effective method is the one already mentioned:
Just splash some petrol inside the cabin and chuck a match in.
A burning aircraft will be nothing but scrap within minutes.
Just splash some petrol inside the cabin and chuck a match in.
A burning aircraft will be nothing but scrap within minutes.
ETA - Don't generally find a lot of petrol near aircraft or military vehicles...
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