Shackleton’s Endurance- Found
Shackleton’s Endurance- Found
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pidsy

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8,596 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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After sinking in 1915 Endurance has been found off the coast of Antarctica- just 4 miles south of her position originally recorded by Captain Frank Worsley.

She’s upright at a depth of 3km and in incredible condition.




Largechris

2,019 posts

114 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Blimey wasn't expecting that, thought they had no chance.

originals

1,635 posts

50 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Wow.

brake fader

2,486 posts

58 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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wow its in better nick than an old ford.

lufbramatt

5,546 posts

157 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Saw this earlier, incredible to see how well it's been preserved. The story of Shackleton's expedition is amazing- would make a great film.

The James Caird (the small whaling boat they used for an 800 mile voyage to go and find help) has also been preserved and is on display at Dulwich College.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Anyone want to guess a cost to salvage?

3,000m is obviously significant, but once below around 300m you're into ROV's anyway. Not sure how much it weighs but in water mass isn't going to be that large by modern standards

Stuctural integrity of the hull is the biggest concern, so a cradle/strap lift frame would clealy be required

MitchT

17,089 posts

232 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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According to the BBC News site...

The wreck itself is a designated monument under the international Antarctic Treaty and must not be disturbed in any way. No physical artefacts have therefore been brought to the surface.

... therefore, I would imagine salvage isn't an option. Shame as it would be amazing to have it safely preserved in a museum.

originals

1,635 posts

50 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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It can't be touched apparently.

pidsy

Original Poster:

8,596 posts

180 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Considering so many expeditions have looked for it over the years - I’m amazed it’s taken until now to find it.

I know “only” 4 miles encompasses a huge search area but considering the fact the ship is intact and not broken to pieces - wouldn’t it have come up on sonar clearer?

Would the depth have been an issue to previous searches?

Se7enheaven

1,959 posts

187 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Wow that’s an amazing find. Time to start reading my Shackleton books again. Never get tired of reading about that expedition.

Mark Asread

3,216 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Holy heck, I was NOT expecting that. I was reading last week about the recalculations of its position, but I shrugged them off as yet another fruitless guesstimate.

Absolutely wonderful.

Eric Mc

124,768 posts

288 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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lufbramatt said:
Saw this earlier, incredible to see how well it's been preserved. The story of Shackleton's expedition is amazing- would make a great film.

The James Caird (the small whaling boat they used for an 800 mile voyage to go and find help) has also been preserved and is on display at Dulwich College.
There was a very good TV movie featuring Kenneth Brannagh as Shackleton.

What a lot of people don't realise is that Shackleton was Irish.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

221 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Eric Mc said:
lufbramatt said:
Saw this earlier, incredible to see how well it's been preserved. The story of Shackleton's expedition is amazing- would make a great film.

The James Caird (the small whaling boat they used for an 800 mile voyage to go and find help) has also been preserved and is on display at Dulwich College.
There was a very good TV movie featuring Kenneth Brannagh as Shackleton.

What a lot of people don't realise is that Shackleton was Irish.
Also one we found on prime, from NZ I think, called "Shackleton’s Captain". An amazing story.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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pidsy said:
Considering so many expeditions have looked for it over the years - I’m amazed it’s taken until now to find it.

I know “only” 4 miles encompasses a huge search area but considering the fact the ship is intact and not broken to pieces - wouldn’t it have come up on sonar clearer?

Would the depth have been an issue to previous searches?
I suspect the ice cover is the issue. A side scan sonar requires a defined search pattern to be run, which is tricky in sea ice conditions.

I'd also take a guess that a very water saturated wooden hull has a massively lower return magnitude than any modern steel hull, and the ship is pretty small by modern standards too



Deranged Rover

4,385 posts

97 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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pidsy said:
Considering so many expeditions have looked for it over the years - I’m amazed it’s taken until now to find it.
They've clearly just not used the right ROV until now.

And, yes, I am biased... biggrin

NowWatchThisDrive

1,247 posts

127 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Caught this on Twitter earlier courtesy of Dan Snow, absolutely fascinating to see how well preserved it is. Also nice that they're not planning on interfering with it or trying to bring it up - get the feeling the great man would have preferred it that way.

Halmyre

12,273 posts

162 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Se7enheaven said:
Wow that’s an amazing find. Time to start reading my Shackleton books again. Never get tired of reading about that expedition.
It must be the ultimate "Boy's Own" adventure. An achievement that beggars belief.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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MitchT said:
According to the BBC News site...

The wreck itself is a designated monument under the international Antarctic Treaty and must not be disturbed in any way. No physical artefacts have therefore been brought to the surface.

... therefore, I would imagine salvage isn't an option. Shame as it would be amazing to have it safely preserved in a museum.
Preservation via record is the way to go with things like this. Interesting that there is very little degradation of the timbers most ships of this era are pretty badly damaged by wood worm, except for vessels in low oxygen environments like those in the Black Sea. Its probably pretty safe where it is.

Mave

8,216 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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Fantastic to see those photos, good opportunity to watch the film with my kids and bring the story to life.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

185 months

Wednesday 9th March 2022
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It’s a hundred years since Shackleton was laid to rest. Good timing.