World's biggest cruise ship to be scrapped before launch
World's biggest cruise ship to be scrapped before launch
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ChemicalChaos

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10,712 posts

189 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Apparently the cruise line went bust and no buyer wants to take it on:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11167999/...

I simply can't believe that scrapping it is the best option, surely it could be turned into a floating refugee camp or even a prison?

Muzzer79

12,997 posts

216 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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That much steel means it'll be worth more as scrap than re-purposing it.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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The article seems to suggest it's 200 million short of being finished. Some of that is going to be structural, so you can assume it doesnt work as a ship right now, never mind a fully fitted ship. Call it 100 million to get to a point where its usable, and the economics start to look dubious, whereas ripping it apart for scrap has no upfront costs, just labour and profit.

Dogwatch

6,379 posts

251 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Can't help wondering what would happen if it got into difficulties in service, e.g. a passing rock leapt out and gouged a hole in the hull. Unlikely i know wink but evacuating 9000 people would be a heck of a task.

LotusOmega375D

9,298 posts

182 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Is it just me or does it not actually look all that big, when compared to the person in this image?


Simpo Two

92,599 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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I thought that too, even allowing for the wide-angle lens.

Cold

16,622 posts

119 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Bosses at a Scottish ferry building yard have just looked up from their coffee mugs.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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It's a good start.

Now scrap the rest of these floating abominations.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Who were they building it for? Surely they were not speculatively building 2 huge cruise ships!? Presumably the purchaser has gone bust, not paid the shipbuilder who has gone bust as a result?

808 Estate

2,656 posts

120 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Ususally there are staged payments, so hopefully the buiilder isnt too much out of pocket. They also probably own the asset as its not paid for and handed over.

Simpo Two

92,599 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Slightly ironic that they've gone bust, but found the money to paint hideous graphics on the front before it was finished. Build the ship first!

Frik

13,675 posts

272 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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LotusOmega375D said:
Is it just me or does it not actually look all that big, when compared to the person in this image?

They're not standing anywhere near it. The two people to their left are standing directly under the bow.

Ambleton

7,246 posts

221 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Zumbruk said:
It's a good start.

Now scrap the rest of these floating abominations.
Couldn't agree more. They're atrocious for the planet and why anyone would want to pay to go on one is beyond me.

Hopefully with rising fuel costs and a few pandemics a few more will be recycled too.

stevemcs

10,254 posts

122 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Ambleton said:
Couldn't agree more. They're atrocious for the planet and why anyone would want to pay to go on one is beyond me.

Hopefully with rising fuel costs and a few pandemics a few more will be recycled too.
Everyone is different I guess, i don't suppose you will be making an appearance in the Cruise 2022 thread then.

Simpo Two

92,599 posts

294 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Ambleton said:
[They're atrocious for the planet and why anyone would want to pay to go on one is beyond me.
I have no idea why people want to queue up in an airport for 5 hours, fly in a metal tube to a beach for a week, struggle with a foreign language dos beers garcon sivuplay then spend another 5 hours in an airport before driving home. But they do.

I imagine that cruise ships are pretty low CO2 per passenger.

InitialDave

15,070 posts

148 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Frik said:
LotusOmega375D said:
Is it just me or does it not actually look all that big, when compared to the person in this image?

They're not standing anywhere near it. The two people to their left are standing directly under the bow.

FourWheelDrift

92,213 posts

313 months

Thursday 1st September 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Ambleton said:
[They're atrocious for the planet and why anyone would want to pay to go on one is beyond me.
I have no idea why people want to queue up in an airport for 5 hours, fly in a metal tube to a beach for a week, struggle with a foreign language dos beers garcon sivuplay then spend another 5 hours in an airport before driving home. But they do.

I imagine that cruise ships are pretty low CO2 per passenger.
"Available research suggest that a large cruise ship can have a carbon footprint greater than 12,000 cars. Passengers on an Antarctic cruise can produce as much CO2 emissions while on an average seven day voyage as the average European in an entire year."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/2109...

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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FourWheelDrift said:
Simpo Two said:
Ambleton said:
[They're atrocious for the planet and why anyone would want to pay to go on one is beyond me.
I have no idea why people want to queue up in an airport for 5 hours, fly in a metal tube to a beach for a week, struggle with a foreign language dos beers garcon sivuplay then spend another 5 hours in an airport before driving home. But they do.

I imagine that cruise ships are pretty low CO2 per passenger.
"Available research suggest that a large cruise ship can have a carbon footprint greater than 12,000 cars. Passengers on an Antarctic cruise can produce as much CO2 emissions while on an average seven day voyage as the average European in an entire year."

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/09/2109...
OTOH, there's one good thing about cruising; it keeps all the people who like cruising in one place a long way away from me.

dmsims

7,443 posts

296 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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To say nothing of the Sox, Nox and particulates....

DJFish

6,016 posts

292 months

Friday 2nd September 2022
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Not necessarily.
Many cruise ships have scrubbers on board.
Some also have devices installed to reduce exhaust emissions.