The new Concorde

[soupdragon1]

Not gonna lie, this plane will become a 'before I die' bucket list box to be ticked

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/20/fi...

Who doesn't want to try supersonic?

[Deesee]

soupdragon1 said:

Not gonna lie, this plane will become a 'before I die' bucket list box to be ticked

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/20/fi...

Who doesn't want to try supersonic?

Love too.. however a global express (+. The new 8000 model), blows this transport out of the air.. range/runways/luxury/closer to your destination.

Love to see it happen, is there a market? .. miss Concorde though..what a machine that was..

[soupdragon1]

Deesee said:

Love too.. however a global express (+. The new 8000 model), blows this transport out of the air.. range/runways/luxury/closer to your destination.

Love to see it happen, is there a market? .. miss Concorde though..what a machine that was..

Yeah, it's kind of a nostalgia thing for me. I remember as a kid, it was on the news that Concorde would arrive at Belfast International airport.

Loads of people went to watch, in awe at this 'magic' aircraft. Felt like a big deal at the time just to even see it, let alone fly in it. It's strange what you remember as a child but that was a wow moment back in the 80s

[GliderRider]

New company, new airframe, new fuel system (hydrogen), supersonic and flying in four years time. It ain't going to happen.

[Simpo Two]

Pro: It's 'green' - hooray it will happen because green money is like water.

Con: The ticket price will be ludicrously high so almost nobody can use it.

Conclusion: Dead duck. Stuff like that has to be commercially viable.

[stevemcs]

Have they overcome the sonic boom? Given it’s what stopped Concorde being successful when it was around 55 years ago.

[Simpo Two]

stevemcs said:

Have they overcome the sonic boom? Given it’s what stopped Concorde being successful when it was around 55 years ago.

I thought that was just the Yanks being arsey 'cos they hadn't invented it. They tried to nail it on noise and emissions too IIRC. The 'not invented here' syndrome.

[hidetheelephants]

stevemcs said:

Have they overcome the sonic boom? Given it’s what stopped Concorde being successful when it was around 55 years ago.

Not really; if OPEC hadn't decided they wanted more money for their liquid dinosaurs some more may have sold and some would have ended up with Pan Am etc, then the boom would have been less of a political football. This is vapourware, ask me when there's an airframe I can look at.

[h0b0]

I attended a presentation to potential investors for overture several years ago. It was clear the company exists for funding and not product.

[dhutch]

Seems completely pointless and a reverse of trends for less air travel, less business travel, more virtual meetings etc. Also a big ask as said above.

That said, I'm pretty game for pointless but amazing engineering projects and would be up for a flight on it if the price tag was anything like achievable.

Watching the space!

[LimaDelta]

soupdragon1 said:

Who doesn't want to try supersonic?

At 10 miles up it is nothing more than a number on a dial.

I'd prefer it if a company suddenly found a way to make flight at 200ft efficient and we went everywhere at 480kts using TFR.

[mcdjl]

GliderRider said:

New company, new airframe, new fuel system (hydrogen), supersonic and flying in four years time. It ain't going to happen.

Don't be so cynical. It was helped massively when all the big engine manufacturers abandoned them a few months ago. https://simpleflying.com/rolls-royce-quits-boom-su...

Somewhere there's a thread on here from almost 10 years ago when we were looking forward to their first flight in 2019.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boom_Technology
It may have been suggested they were optimistic then.

[djc206]

I still want them to succeed. I attended a presentation by them at Brooklands 5 years ago, they don’t appear to have come far in that time but the child in me hopes they do. Bucket list item for sure.

[Simpo Two]

h0b0 said:

I attended a presentation to potential investors for overture several years ago. It was clear the company exists for funding and not product.

Which might be why RR checked out so quickly.

[Eric Mc]

As I said the last time this project reared its head in the news (as it does every couple of years), I'm very skeptical about the whole thing. I'll be amazed if it happens before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

I have always thought any future market for civil supersonic travel lay with executive jets rather than airliners.

[ruwokeenuff]

stevemcs said:

Have they overcome the sonic boom? Given it’s what stopped Concorde being successful when it was around 55 years ago.

It didnt.

[djc206]

Eric Mc said:

As I said the last time this project reared its head in the news (as it does every couple of years), I'm very skeptical about the whole thing. I'll be amazed if it happens before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

I have always thought any future market for civil supersonic travel lay with executive jets rather than airliners.

I thought that too but the optics in the modern era are slightly better with scheduled airlines than the super rich whizzing about at Mach 1.4 When you consider they’re already able to fly around at .9 so is it really worth it and is there a big enough market? I guess we’ll find out if one of these companies manages to get one of these projects in the sky.

[akirk]

Eric Mc said:

I have always thought any future market for civil supersonic travel lay with executive jets rather than airliners.

I think it lies with ex-military 2 seater jets...
- fast
- exclusive
- you look like Tom Cruise
- enough space for you and your laptop to get to that important meeting...

bonus points for a Harrier Jump-Jet so that you can land in the car-park of the business you plan to buy / exploit / asset-strip / bankrupt...

a friend and I were tempted to look into this as a viable business model 20 years ago, should have done it as we could I am sure have raised the funds so that someone else's money was lost and had a lot of fun in the meantime!

[48k]

Never gonna happen.

[Muzzer79]

Another day, another 'new' Concorde.

These crop up every few months. Never gonna happen