First f15 air to air kill over Kuwait

[seabod91]

Videos emerging of what is thought to be a friendly fire incident over Kuwait.

Two parachutes deployed and one video of an American laying in the back of a 4x4 talking.

This would be the first time an f15 has been lost due to an air to air incident.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You could supply a link perhaps?

[seabod91]

GiantEnemyCrab said:

You could supply a link perhaps?

I know sorry. I m at work and have no idea how to embed links from Reddit.

I saw it on r/combatfootage.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/EQVKElDJm...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/Xswbik071...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/N5JnXoX4T...

See if this works.

Edited by seabod91 on Monday 2nd March 06:08

[Caruso]

There’s a video on the BBC showing one of the planes dropping in a flat spin. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

[bergclimber34]

Don't Israel use 15s?

[T_S_M]

Sky News now reporting 3 F15's have been shot down, all friendly fire by Kuwait.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-latest-israel-laun...

[budgie smuggler]

seabod91 said:

I know sorry. I m at work and have no idea how to embed links from Reddit.

I saw it on r/combatfootage.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/EQVKElDJm...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/Xswbik071...

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/N5JnXoX4T...

See if this works.

Edited by seabod91 on Monday 2nd March 06:08

All "removed by moderator", god reddit is irritating now.

[aeropilot]

T_S_M said:

Sky News now reporting 3 F15's have been shot down, all friendly fire by Kuwait.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-latest-israel-laun...

Yep, USAF not going to be happy with trigger happy Kuwaiti's downing of their THREE Strike Eagles......!
At all the crews seem to be OK.

Another flight of six F-15E's left Lakenheath this morning heading for the ME, after a stop-over having arrived in from Seymour-Johnson AFB.

[theplayingmantis]

Assume SAM friendly fire? (dumb question but so am i).

[aeropilot]

theplayingmantis said:

Assume SAM friendly fire? (dumb question but so am i).

A Kuwait Patriot battery downed them.

[ATG]

Ouch. That's 12 million dollars for the three patriot interceptors, and 285 million for the aircraft, so let's call it a 300 million dollar mistake.

[phil squares]

Just remember, "if you don't use them, they don't buy new ones!" As told to me by a Wing Commander about 50 years ago.

[wolfracesonic]

So it seems the F15s were shot down by a single Kuwaiti F18; I wonder if the Kuwaiti pilot has been Googling where to buy F15 stencils?

[Silver3ides]

Iv'e no idea how on missile avoidance alerts work .. But i didn't see any chaff being released or avoidance manoeuvres ?

[Silver3ides]

... just gooled the ejector seat in the F-15 .. A Collins Aerospace one , But do Martin Baker do a scarf or similair instead of a Tie for Female Pilots ?

[phil squares]

Perhaps I am getting denser in my old age, but does anyone find this entire cluster f**K a little strange?

1) I would assume there was at least one F-15E that had its transponder on, most likely the lead! I certainly want to be driving around with it off.

2) Military transponders have another mode 1-5, which is similar to mode S, only it is changed at 0000Z daily and a "gun" is used to load the codes in the avionics bay. IIRC, mode 5 is the most secure and provides information to other radars that might interrogate the suspect aircraft.

3) I don't know what the ROE (rules of engagement) were/are, but it's normal if you get no response, then a visual ID is required or if the unknown aircraft(s) become aggressive, then you can defend yourself.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or am I just being PIA?