HMS Surprise to close, requiring $25m costs
HMS Surprise to close, requiring $25m costs
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FourWheelDrift

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92,126 posts

311 months

Thursday 9th July
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Captain Jack Aubrey won't be happy. And it will screw up a sequel.

Facebook said:
Update from the San Diego Martitime Museum on Surprise.
I am writing to share that the Museum has recently made a difficult long-term decision regarding the vessel s future.
After extensive professional evaluation and careful consideration by the Board and staff leadership, the Museum has determined that keeping HMS Surprise in our fleet is not financially viable. The cost required to bring the ship up to the standard our visitors, crew, and community deserve is no longer feasible nor responsible.
Earlier this year, the Museum brought in a professional marine surveyor to carefully inspect our historic fleet and the resources required to properly steward them. The cost to sufficiently restore HMS Surprise is estimated to exceed $25,000,000. The Museum simply does not have the resources for this, and it would significantly limit our ability to care for the rest of the collection and advance our educational mission.
Therefore, the decision has been made to permanently close HMS Surprise to the public on August 1, 2027. We will be announcing this to our museum community and the public in the coming month.
Please know that this decision was not made lightly. For more than 20 years, the Museum has devoted considerable resources to maintain HMS Surprise as a vital part of the Museum s historic vessel collection. She has played an extraordinary role in bringing maritime history to life, inspiring countless visitors, students, and supporters over the years. Before she is closed to the public, the Museum will be appropriately honoring and celebrating her over the next year.
I do want to be clear that this decision is final, and the Museum will not be launching a fundraising campaign to reverse it. The Museum staff is exploring options for her next chapter, including but not limited to potential entertainment industry opportunities, among other solutions. We will share updates when available.
We deeply appreciate the recent support you have shown HMS Surprise. However, I understand that this information may change how you wish to direct your donation. The funds can be redirected to another vessel, our education programs, or to the Museum s general operating fund. I also understand that you may choose to have your donation refunded and am happy to assist with that as well. My office number is below if you need to reach me via phone.
Thank you again for your support and interest in our work.
Sincerely,
Kate
Kate O Neill
Director of Development & Membership
Maritime Museum of San Diego
https://sdmaritime.org/visit/the-ships/hms-surpris...

JoshSm

4,414 posts

64 months

Thursday 9th July
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Sounds a bit like they milked it, neglected it, and now want to avoid any problematic discussion by just burying the whole thing.

It obviously isn't just about the money.

havoc

33,104 posts

262 months

mac96

6,190 posts

170 months

Yesterday (18:35)
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Interesting. I wonder when that was done and what it cost? Apart from whether it was a good idea anyway , it sounds as if money that needed to be spent on boring but essential stuff, like the hull, may have been frittered away on the visible bits .

But realistically how practical is it to keep a ship like this afloat for 60 years+? Must get to the point where you might as well build a new replica if there is demand for it.

Simpo Two

92,265 posts

292 months

Yesterday (20:00)
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As it was only a replica to start with I'm not too bothered. If it was a genuine C18 frigate that would be different.

hidetheelephants

34,946 posts

220 months

Yesterday (20:15)
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They should do an 18th century sink-ex, blast away at it with grape shot etc, until it succumbs.

Yertis

19,666 posts

293 months

mac96 said:
Interesting. I wonder when that was done and what it cost? Apart from whether it was a good idea anyway , it sounds as if money that needed to be spent on boring but essential stuff, like the hull, may have been frittered away on the visible bits .

But realistically how practical is it to keep a ship like this afloat for 60 years+? Must get to the point where you might as well build a new replica if there is demand for it.
Old boats last better if kept afloat (and looked after). One of the problems facing Cutty Sark was that she'd been taken out of the water, her timbers had therefore shrunk, and thus all her iron framework got damp and rusted away. You'd think people looking after her would have known this would happen.

I think it'll be a great shame to see Surprise go, replica or not. Assuming it was a good replica.