Embraer

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Munter

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31,330 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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I'm flying a lot out of Birmingham recently on flybe.

They have a habit of flying Embraer planes. Flew on a Embraer 195 today to glasgow. Now given it's a budget airline. I had plenty of leg room and it generally felt a nice place to be.

Are they "up and coming" as it were. It's not exactly a name you hear a lot as a member of the public.

Mind you I flew back on a Q400 Dash8.... :shudder:

jamiebae

6,245 posts

226 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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I did BHX to Glasgow a couple of weeks ago on FlyBe and was on an Embraer both ways.

As for Embraer, they're a Brazilian company and market leaders in that size of plane, but a fairly new company on the world stage.

Eric Mc

123,903 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th May 2009
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Embraer have actually been around quite a long time - since the late 1960s.
Their first main production aircraft was the twin turboprop EMB 110 Banderiante followed by the EMB 120 Brasilia. They were both small feederliners. With Brazilian government support, they have expanded into small medium range jet airliners and biz jets. The 190 family is their latest offering is quite an impressive line of aircraft.

I always think that Brazil has stepped into the gap left by the demise of the UK civilian jet industry.

EMB 110 Bandeirante



EMB 120 Brasilia



EMB 145



EMB 190





Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 12th May 22:05

Lefty Guns

18,214 posts

217 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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I read recently they're in financial trouble?

Eric Mc

123,903 posts

280 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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To be honest, outside of Boeing, for many years making airliners has never really been a profitable activity. That's why BAe pulled out of the game. Most airliner projects have required some state assistance (it can be argued that even Boeing have benefitted from this indirectly). Certainly Airbus still do and the British manufacturers needed it in the past.
Embraer have been helped in this way so far. With governments having to cut back, maybe they will find it difficult.

Munter

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31,330 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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Lefty Guns said:
I read recently they're in financial trouble?
I hope not. Given the choice of the 195 or a 737 run by a budget carrier. I have to say I'd plump for the 195. It really was a sit down and go "Oh wow I have leg room" and it just felt "spacy".

I presume they have an OK safety record..... Brazil is hardly known for it's high tech etc...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

270 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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Nuts...

Eric Mc

123,903 posts

280 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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On the contrary. Brazil is now a world leader in aeropspace - and probably ahead of the UK in some areas.

Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 13th May 12:10

Cheeky Jim

1,276 posts

295 months

Wednesday 13th May 2009
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They fly the emb190 from Southampton to Edinburgh... very pleasant place to be. Loads of legroom, quiet etc.

It's coming back on the dash's - noisy rattly prop driven things....

Glosphil

4,654 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Munter said:
Lefty Guns said:
I read recently they're in financial trouble?
I hope not. Given the choice of the 195 or a 737 run by a budget carrier. I have to say I'd plump for the 195. It really was a sit down and go "Oh wow I have leg room" and it just felt "spacy".

I presume they have an OK safety record..... Brazil is hardly known for it's high tech etc...
Suurely the airline decide the seat pitch and hence the legroom, not the aircraft manufacturer?

FourWheelDrift

90,977 posts

299 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Brazil are or going to be very oil rich (massive off shore discovery that could make them the worlds biggest oil supplier) so they will either provide support to Embraer or end up being invaded by the USA.

Eric Mc

123,903 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Glosphil said:
Munter said:
Lefty Guns said:
I read recently they're in financial trouble?
I hope not. Given the choice of the 195 or a 737 run by a budget carrier. I have to say I'd plump for the 195. It really was a sit down and go "Oh wow I have leg room" and it just felt "spacy".

I presume they have an OK safety record..... Brazil is hardly known for it's high tech etc...
Suurely the airline decide the seat pitch and hence the legroom, not the aircraft manufacturer?
Correct. Seat pitch and other interior items are usually specified by the customer.

Lefty Guns

18,214 posts

217 months

Thursday 14th May 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Glosphil said:
Munter said:
Lefty Guns said:
I read recently they're in financial trouble?
I hope not. Given the choice of the 195 or a 737 run by a budget carrier. I have to say I'd plump for the 195. It really was a sit down and go "Oh wow I have leg room" and it just felt "spacy".

I presume they have an OK safety record..... Brazil is hardly known for it's high tech etc...
Suurely the airline decide the seat pitch and hence the legroom, not the aircraft manufacturer?
Correct. Seat pitch and other interior items are usually specified by the customer.
Yep, rather unfair to blame the manufacturer for the airlines spec!