MAKS 2009 - Anyone going?
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Hey guys, I know this is a bit of a long shot, but are there any PHers heading to this either at the weekend or during the week?
http://www.aviasalon.com/en/
It's supposed to be a great show with loads to see and do. I shall be going on Sunday as I'm only an hour or so away from Zhukovsky.
Has anybody been before?
I'm planning to take loads of pictures and if I get anything decent will post them up, would be good to meet any fellow PHers there if anybody is going!
http://www.aviasalon.com/en/
It's supposed to be a great show with loads to see and do. I shall be going on Sunday as I'm only an hour or so away from Zhukovsky.
Has anybody been before?
I'm planning to take loads of pictures and if I get anything decent will post them up, would be good to meet any fellow PHers there if anybody is going!
bob1179 said:
Hey guys, I know this is a bit of a long shot, but are there any PHers heading to this either at the weekend or during the week?
http://www.aviasalon.com/en/
It's supposed to be a great show with loads to see and do. I shall be going on Sunday as I'm only an hour or so away from Zhukovsky.
Has anybody been before?
I'm planning to take loads of pictures and if I get anything decent will post them up, would be good to meet any fellow PHers there if anybody is going!
Hope you weren't specifically wanting to see the Russian Knights?http://www.aviasalon.com/en/
It's supposed to be a great show with loads to see and do. I shall be going on Sunday as I'm only an hour or so away from Zhukovsky.
Has anybody been before?
I'm planning to take loads of pictures and if I get anything decent will post them up, would be good to meet any fellow PHers there if anybody is going!
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Is your life insurance is up to date?
Edited by dr_gn on Monday 17th August 13:44
Eric Mc said:
bob1179 said:
I heard about the accident, it is fairly big news here. Seems a real shame but these things happen.
Still looking forward to going mind.
Rather too fequently to Russian display pilots.Still looking forward to going mind.
Hopefully there will be no accidents during the show.
bob1179 said:
Eric Mc said:
bob1179 said:
I heard about the accident, it is fairly big news here. Seems a real shame but these things happen.
Still looking forward to going mind.
Rather too fequently to Russian display pilots.Still looking forward to going mind.
Hopefully there will be no accidents during the show.
bob1179 said:
Eric Mc said:
bob1179 said:
I heard about the accident, it is fairly big news here. Seems a real shame but these things happen.
Still looking forward to going mind.
Rather too fequently to Russian display pilots.Still looking forward to going mind.
Hopefully there will be no accidents during the show.
When they were regulars at the Farnborough Air Show they certainly produced a number of "iffy" moments - some of which I witnessed.
I also witnessed first hand the MiG 29 mid-air at Fairford in 1993.
Well, I went yesterday and had a thoroughly good time! As is typical with Russia (and the UK) the weather wasn't too good with a fairly low ceiling, this delayed the displays but when the fast jets started flying it made up for it!
The Italian Frecce Tricolori with their Aermacchi MB-339 did a good show but again were limited due to the cloud.
I took a lot of pictures, here are a few of them:
Antonov An-124 Ruslan. This lady looked a little rough around the edges but was operational, she was sat with her APU running for quite a while, I reckon the batteries were going flat!
Anybody know what this is? I couldn't see a sign for it, Russian made but I was pretty clueless!
A Beriev Be 200, it's a jet powered seaplane that is used for fire fighting and medivac duties.
Antonov An-22 transport plane.
Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack, bigger, faster and with a greater bomb carrying capacity than the B1-B, awesome looking plane!
Tupolev Tu-95 Bear, this is the type of plane that Russia sends in our direction to see how we react. I was suprised at how small it was, still looks mean though!
Beriev A-50, this is the Russian AWACS and is based on the Ilyushin Il-76.
Mi-26, heavy lift helicopter, the largest production helicopter in the world.
Mi-28, Russian attack helicopter.
MiG-29 in the foreground, not sure what the tandem seat one behind is, it has a side by side seating arrangement like the old F111, any ideas? I think it may be a MiG-29 variant.
Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft.
Absolutely no idea!
Sukhoi Super jet in formation with their other products.
I believe these are Czech LET trainers, though I stand to be corrected.
Bloke with a Russian flag.
Italian Freece Tricolori in action.
Beriev Be-200 doing a flypast.
Ilyushin Il-96-400T freighter.
MiG-29 in Russian TV colours!
Now onto my very favorite aircraft of the day, the Tupolev Tu-144 'Concordski', I've always wanted to see one of these up close and it was pretty awesome, I wish I could have seen it fly!
I have taken tons more pictures, and I hope these haven't bored you too much! It was a shame that the US and UK pulled out due to 'economic' reasons. It was great seeing all the Russian planes I'd read about as a youngster though!
The Italian Frecce Tricolori with their Aermacchi MB-339 did a good show but again were limited due to the cloud.
I took a lot of pictures, here are a few of them:
Antonov An-124 Ruslan. This lady looked a little rough around the edges but was operational, she was sat with her APU running for quite a while, I reckon the batteries were going flat!
Anybody know what this is? I couldn't see a sign for it, Russian made but I was pretty clueless!
A Beriev Be 200, it's a jet powered seaplane that is used for fire fighting and medivac duties.
Antonov An-22 transport plane.
Tupolev Tu-160 Blackjack, bigger, faster and with a greater bomb carrying capacity than the B1-B, awesome looking plane!
Tupolev Tu-95 Bear, this is the type of plane that Russia sends in our direction to see how we react. I was suprised at how small it was, still looks mean though!
Beriev A-50, this is the Russian AWACS and is based on the Ilyushin Il-76.
Mi-26, heavy lift helicopter, the largest production helicopter in the world.
Mi-28, Russian attack helicopter.
MiG-29 in the foreground, not sure what the tandem seat one behind is, it has a side by side seating arrangement like the old F111, any ideas? I think it may be a MiG-29 variant.
Ilyushin Il-76 transport aircraft.
Absolutely no idea!
Sukhoi Super jet in formation with their other products.
I believe these are Czech LET trainers, though I stand to be corrected.
Bloke with a Russian flag.
Italian Freece Tricolori in action.
Beriev Be-200 doing a flypast.
Ilyushin Il-96-400T freighter.
MiG-29 in Russian TV colours!
Now onto my very favorite aircraft of the day, the Tupolev Tu-144 'Concordski', I've always wanted to see one of these up close and it was pretty awesome, I wish I could have seen it fly!
I have taken tons more pictures, and I hope these haven't bored you too much! It was a shame that the US and UK pulled out due to 'economic' reasons. It was great seeing all the Russian planes I'd read about as a youngster though!
Edited by bob1179 on Monday 24th August 09:25
Some good stuff there.
I have no idea either what the Russian light aircraft is.
The blue side by side seat fighter is one of the Sukhoi Su27/30 family. They are about 1/3 bigger than the MiG 29.
By the way, the Beriev Be200 is technically a flying boat, not a seaplane. Flying boats rest on their fuselages in the water i.e. the fuselage is also a boat hull. A seaplane/floatplane rests on separate floats when in the water.
The little biplane fighter is a Polikarpov i-15
I have no idea either what the Russian light aircraft is.
The blue side by side seat fighter is one of the Sukhoi Su27/30 family. They are about 1/3 bigger than the MiG 29.
By the way, the Beriev Be200 is technically a flying boat, not a seaplane. Flying boats rest on their fuselages in the water i.e. the fuselage is also a boat hull. A seaplane/floatplane rests on separate floats when in the water.
The little biplane fighter is a Polikarpov i-15
Cheers Eric!
I learn something new everyday, I didn't realise the difference between a flying boat and a sea plane.
I recognised the Polikarpov i-15 but for the life of me couldn't remember what on earth it was called.
The light aircraft has me puzzled, I couldn't see anything to identify it at all.
I learn something new everyday, I didn't realise the difference between a flying boat and a sea plane.
I recognised the Polikarpov i-15 but for the life of me couldn't remember what on earth it was called.
The light aircraft has me puzzled, I couldn't see anything to identify it at all.
dudleybloke said:
some interesting aircraft there!
would have loved to have gone.
is the concordski still airworthy?
The TU-144 in unfortunately no longer airworthy, this example last flew in the late 90's after a $350 million upgrade to get her flight ready again. She was used in conjunction with NASA to look into the feasibility of a second generation SST.would have loved to have gone.
is the concordski still airworthy?
The engines were borrowed from a TU-160, unfortunately, when the trials ended they had to be returned back to the Russian military. After the demise of Concorde some companies looked into returning the TU-144 to service but due to Russian law, the government would not allow it's military spec engines to leave the country in this wonderful aircraft.
I would love to have seen it in the air, but sadly this is now a museum piece.
bob1179 said:
dudleybloke said:
some interesting aircraft there!
would have loved to have gone.
is the concordski still airworthy?
The TU-144 in unfortunately no longer airworthy, this example last flew in the late 90's after a $350 million upgrade to get her flight ready again. She was used in conjunction with NASA to look into the feasibility of a second generation SST.would have loved to have gone.
is the concordski still airworthy?
The engines were borrowed from a TU-160, unfortunately, when the trials ended they had to be returned back to the Russian military. After the demise of Concorde some companies looked into returning the TU-144 to service but due to Russian law, the government would not allow it's military spec engines to leave the country in this wonderful aircraft.
I would love to have seen it in the air, but sadly this is now a museum piece.
bob1179 said:
dr_gn said:
Guys,
The utility aircraft is a Technoavia SM92 Finist.
The tandem seat fighter is the Su-34
The yellow and blue jet trainers look like Aero L-39's.
Cheers.
Cheers for the info, the single engine jobby was driving me mad!The utility aircraft is a Technoavia SM92 Finist.
The tandem seat fighter is the Su-34
The yellow and blue jet trainers look like Aero L-39's.
Cheers.
Eric Mc said:
I don't think that the Tu-144 would ever be a viable airliner. It struggled to work properly when used for a very brief period in the late 1970s by Aeroflot. They withdrew it in 1977/78.
One of the big problems she suffered was horrific fuel economy. The TU-144 would only reach mach 2 on full reheat and this reduced the range to something like 1800 miles! The later aircraft had different and far more efficient engines, as far as I know, these more than doubled the range of the aircraft.IIRC, there were 19 TU-144's actually built, the last one being completed in the mid 1980's. Due to a lack of interest from the Soviet Politburo and leadership and the collapsing economy of the Soviet Union, the aircraft were laid up never to be used again (other than the brief period in the 90's).
Edited by bob1179 on Monday 24th August 10:42
dr_gn said:
bob1179 said:
dr_gn said:
Guys,
The utility aircraft is a Technoavia SM92 Finist.
The tandem seat fighter is the Su-34
The yellow and blue jet trainers look like Aero L-39's.
Cheers.
Cheers for the info, the single engine jobby was driving me mad!The utility aircraft is a Technoavia SM92 Finist.
The tandem seat fighter is the Su-34
The yellow and blue jet trainers look like Aero L-39's.
Cheers.
There should have been more attendees, the USAF were supposed to be there as were the RAF but they both pulled out.
It was really great to go there, I probably won't get another chance to get up close to so many Soviet/Russian aircraft. When I was growing up I was really into Soviet aircraft and their airforce. They had so many weird and wonderful looking machines and they seemed so different to anything that we had at the time that I was fascinated by them. Driving into and out of the airbase was just as interesting as we had to pass the 'boneyards' with some really old stuff parked up, I just wish I'd taken some pictures of them!
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