What on earth?! (piggy backed sea planes)
What on earth?! (piggy backed sea planes)
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emicen

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8,912 posts

234 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Stumbled across this image:


What planes are these?

I'd never come across any plane piggy backing outside the specially converted 747 NASA use for shuttle transport and the AN224 used by the russians for the same.

CobolMan

1,422 posts

223 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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This link explains it all although for the definitive answer you'll want to ask Eric.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Mayo_Composite

Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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The idea of a larger aircraft carying a smaller one dates back to the dawn of heavier than air flight. It was looked on as a possible way of extending the range of a particular service - such as deivering a payload over a long distance - whether it be passengers, mail or bombs - or as a means of carying a smaller aircrraft for fighter defence.

The aircraft shown in the picture are the Short Mayo/Short Mercury combination. This was an experiment funded by the UK government and carried out by Imnperial Airways to see if a trans-Atlantic mail service was feasible. The large aircraft is a converted Short C Class passenger flying boat and the small aircraft is the one-off Short Mercury floatplane. The idea was that the large flying boat would carry the Mercury a few hundered miles out into the Atlantic at which point the Metrcury would take off and continue its journey across the ocean.

WW2 interevened before too many trial flights had been conducted but, by the time war ended, the whole concept was obsolete - as was the large passenger carying flying boat itself.

Cookie172

856 posts

227 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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There was the Mistel, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistel

dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
The aircraft shown in the picture are the Short Mayo/Short Mercury combination.
Not quite!

Actually it's a Short *Maia* and Short Mercury. It was the combination of the two that was called the Mayo.

I never did find one for my Dinky aircraft collection, although I do have the individual planes:



Here is a great video of the machine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYtazEBQ1K8

Cheers,


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

214 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
The aircraft shown in the picture are the Short Mayo/Short Mercury combination.
Not quite!

Actually it's a Short *Maia* and Short Mercury. It was the combination of the two that was called the Mayo.

I never did find one for my Dinky aircraft collection, although I do have the individual planes:



Here is a great video of the machine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYtazEBQ1K8

Cheers,
yikes Eric out geeked. Tis a sad sad day. Incorrect facts, spelling mistakes in the post, it just makes me realise that it won't be long before we have to take our beloved Eric to the vets for that one last time. cry

Edited by rhinochopig on Friday 11th September 10:33

dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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emicen said:
I'd never come across any plane piggy backing outside the specially converted 747 NASA use for shuttle transport and the AN224 used by the russians for the same.
Here's another:

http://aerostories.free.fr/constructeurs/leduc/pag...

dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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rhinochopig said:
yikes Eric out geeked. Tis a sad sad day. Incorrect facts, spelling mistakes in the post, it just makes me realise that it won't be long before we have to take our beloved Eric to the vets for that one last time. cry
Well...previous knowledge aside, you can see in the OP's photograph that the name of each aircraft is written in big black letters on their respective fuselages - dead giveaway!

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

214 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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dr_gn said:
rhinochopig said:
yikes Eric out geeked. Tis a sad sad day. Incorrect facts, spelling mistakes in the post, it just makes me realise that it won't be long before we have to take our beloved Eric to the vets for that one last time. cry
Well...previous knowledge aside, you can see in the OP's photograph that the name of each aircraft is written in big black letters on their respective fuselages - dead giveaway!
That just makes things worse - his eyesight is obviously failing as well. The one way trip is closer than I thought. We should make his last days as comfortable as possible. Quick someone post up a nice picture of his favourite aircraft.

dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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rhinochopig said:
dr_gn said:
rhinochopig said:
yikes Eric out geeked. Tis a sad sad day. Incorrect facts, spelling mistakes in the post, it just makes me realise that it won't be long before we have to take our beloved Eric to the vets for that one last time. cry
Well...previous knowledge aside, you can see in the OP's photograph that the name of each aircraft is written in big black letters on their respective fuselages - dead giveaway!
That just makes things worse - his eyesight is obviously failing as well. The one way trip is closer than I thought. We should make his last days as comfortable as possible. Quick someone post up a nice picture of his favourite aircraft.


Reckon we got there in time?

Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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It's nice to be outgeeked from time to time. I was getting tired of being looked at as "Geek in Chief". I am very happy for someone else to take over the mantle.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

214 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Eric Mc said:
It's nice to be outgeeked from time to time. I was getting tired of being looked at as "Geek in Chief". I am very happy for someone else to take over the mantle.
shout HELLO DEAR, WOULD YOU LIKE A CUP OF TEA AND SIT DOWN?

Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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I may be blind but I'm not deaf.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

264 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Would you like some biscuits to go with the tea?

Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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McVities gingers would do nicely.

I have a soft spot for gingers - as long as they are properly packaged and not gone stale.


dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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idea with M - A - Y - O perhaps?


Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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Mayo are pretty handy at Gaelic Games too


anonymous-user

70 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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I love the Short Mayo composite aircraft.

Both are beautiful aircraft by themselves but the combination is stunning. The Empire flying boat is my favourite aircraft of all time. You can still see the bricked up archway in Victoria Train Station where passengers would arrive from the former Imperial Airways building above and board trains down to the flying boat base at Hythe and them Southampton.

"Corsairville" is a great read for those interested in the Empire flying boats.






Eric Mc

123,953 posts

281 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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And of course, the C Class begat the Sunderland.

dr_gn

16,565 posts

200 months

Friday 11th September 2009
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el stovey said:
I love the Short Mayo composite aircraft.

Both are beautiful aircraft by themselves but the combination is stunning.
Why is it that some things look so 'right' for no apparent reason? I'm thinking an Empire flying boat, an America's Cup yacht, a steam locomotive like 'Mallard' or even a humble traction engine. If you put them into words they sound ugly, but when you see them, they can look perfectly proportioned.