Some cracking flying...

[Famous Graham]

Couple of Hornets refuelling off the back of a C130

http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/Refue...

[FM]

Nice.

[Urban Sports]

IBTM

[shakotan]

Urban Sports said:

IBTM

I Bum The Milkman?

If you mean "In before the move", so what?

If everyone learned to click the Pie and Piston header, it works just like the old format, and therefore it doesn't make any difference what sub-section it is in.

[Celt]

How does this refuelling work? I get the pointy bit in the ring But what happens I presume something much hold the two together or the fuell would just leak out.

[eharding]

Celt said:

How does this refuelling work? I get the pointy bit in the ring But what happens I presume something much hold the two together or the fuell would just leak out.

Very cunning valve arrangement in the probe/drogue coupling, plus receiver holding position so that there is a slight degree of slack in the hose means the drogue maintains pressure on the probe.

In rotary types, a bit of drogue-fixation and PIO can end badly....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXT2iI_z2Eo

[anonymous-user]

shakotan said:

Urban Sports said:

IBTM

I Bum The Milkman?

That vid is scary. Those guys have some guts being so close to the door.

[Urban Sports]

shakotan said:

Urban Sports said:

IBTM

I Bum The Milkman

Do you? How nice and brave of you to admit that on a public forum.

I was referring to the fact that many decent threads are moved to one of the many IMO unnecessary sub forums.

Anyway back on topic, it amazes me how skilled they are, the wing vortices must be very difficult to get that close.

I'm assuming that to reduce the impact of the vortices they would complete most of the manoeuver underneath the tanker?

[Eric Mc]

You should look for some footage of the early tests carried out in the 1950s.

The British system of probe and drogue is the most commonly used technique around the world. However, the USAF use a rigid boom system which was developed by Boeing.

[deviant]

eharding said:

Celt said:

How does this refuelling work? I get the pointy bit in the ring But what happens I presume something much hold the two together or the fuell would just leak out.

Very cunning valve arrangement in the probe/drogue coupling, plus receiver holding position so that there is a slight degree of slack in the hose means the drogue maintains pressure on the probe.

In rotary types, a bit of drogue-fixation and PIO can end badly....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXT2iI_z2Eo

Does it not strike anyone else as it being a bit daft to design the probe to be in a spot that the rotor can reach?

[ninja-lewis]

One of the recent careers adverts involved flying a Typhoon up the arse of a Hercules for similar close up shots.

http://www.guy-sports.com/humor/pictures/picture_c...

[FourWheelDrift]

Very nice, there are some other really good videos on that site.

Flying a T-33 through the Grand Canyon, notice it's an RAF pilot on exchange with the USAF

http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/videos/Jetti...


Main page with more - http://www.airspacemag.com/multimedia/#

[Mojocvh]

[quote=ninja-lewis]One of the recent careers adverts involved flying a Typhoon up the arse of a Hercules for similar close up shots.


http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=QI-U3-9UO0w&fea...

FF to 2:28 for a laugh.

[shakotan]

Urban Sports said:

I was referring to the fact that many decent threads are moved to one of the many IMO unnecessary sub forums.

I know you were, and I was referring to the fact that if you use the Pie and Piston header, the sub-fora are irrelavant, it simply lists every thread in the order in which it was last posted in, just like the old P&P.

[astroarcadia]

Eric Mc said:

You should look for some footage of the early tests carried out in the 1950s.

The British system of probe and drogue is the most commonly used technique around the world. However, the USAF use a rigid boom system which was developed by Boeing.

I believe my neighbours late husband developed the original British system.

[Ross1988]

Can i ask, what sort of speeds are they flying at when they do this?

Are they close to stall speed?

Whats the pros/cons of the British system and the American system

I've only looked at the original linked video, and its pretty amazing footage.

[Urban Sports]

shakotan said:

Urban Sports said:

I was referring to the fact that many decent threads are moved to one of the many IMO unnecessary sub forums.

I know you were, and I was referring to the fact that if you use the Pie and Piston header, the sub-fora are irrelavant, it simply lists every thread in the order in which it was last posted in, just like the old P&P.

So about this milkman....

[shakotan]

Urban Sports said:

shakotan said:

Urban Sports said:

I was referring to the fact that many decent threads are moved to one of the many IMO unnecessary sub forums.

I know you were, and I was referring to the fact that if you use the Pie and Piston header, the sub-fora are irrelavant, it simply lists every thread in the order in which it was last posted in, just like the old P&P.

So about this milkman....

It was his Valentine's Day treat...

[FourWheelDrift]

Ross1988 said:

Can i ask, what sort of speeds are they flying at when they do this?

Are they close to stall speed?

I should imagine the C130 is in a dive to keep speed up so the Hornets are not having to go too slow.

[eharding]

Ross1988 said:

Whats the pros/cons of the British system and the American system

You can hang multiple hoses from the centre-line and wings, and thus refuel a number of (smaller) aircraft at once with probe and drogue, and the systems themselves are simple enough that they can be fitted as modular stores when required.

The boom systems have a much higher rate of fuel flow, hence you can refuel an aircraft in a much shorter time, but only one at a time - more suited to refuelling large aircraft; also, the boom is 'flown' by an operator into position once the receiver takes up formation, much easier than trying to prod a basket.