I see the communists are still stealing western designs....
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Copying is cheaper and easier than figuring it out for yourself, but it means you'll always be half a generation behind.
I read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How f
king naive can you be?
I read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How f
king naive can you be?Simpo Two said:
Copying is cheaper and easier than figuring it out for yourself, but it means you'll always be half a generation behind.
I read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How fking naive can you be?
erI read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How f
king naive can you be?as naive as a Labour supporter who thinks they care for Britain?
any time
or a Prime Minister who thinks he saved the world
All crazier than...
well, you name it!
One big difference I can think of is that the Tiff is twin-engined, while this aircraft (the Chengdu J-10) is single-engined. I would suspect that would result in a very different airframe, even if the final silhouette of the aircraft is reminiscent of a Typhoon. The blueprints of one would be very unlikely to produce the other.
Could someone more knowledgeable point out the less obvious differences? I must admit the first time I saw this aircraft, it screamed security breach.
Could someone more knowledgeable point out the less obvious differences? I must admit the first time I saw this aircraft, it screamed security breach.
Simpo Two said:
Copying is cheaper and easier than figuring it out for yourself, but it means you'll always be half a generation behind.
I read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How fking naive can you be?
Didnt the Russians also go round I think a RR factory wearing very soft rubber soles to pick up traces of the metal they used. These were then analysed back in the Motherland thus giving the Russians the secrets to high strength low weight metal alloys. I read yesterday of the Labour cretins who gave the Russians 55 RR Nene engines in 1946 - which were promptly reverse engineered and used in MiG 15s in the Korean war, handing them five years R&D on a plate. How f
king naive can you be?Yes, it is quite similar to the Lavi visually.
This is quite a step forward for the Chinese.
Regardless of the ability of the aircraft, it shows the ability of their industry to think their own thoughts.
We'll be seeing more and more indigenous airframes now that they've annoyed the russians.....with their blatant IP theft....outright copying the Flankers that they were sold (produced as the J11). That's besides all the other stuff they've copied in the past.
They are known for it....I am surprised they are let anywhere near some of the things they get into. I was at a conference on stealth and similar subjects a while ago and one company was giving a talk and passing around samples of their materials....other attendees who had been their the previous year had seen the chinese putting the samples into their briefcases and walking out with them. They didn't get any tickets the year I attended!
This is quite a step forward for the Chinese.
Regardless of the ability of the aircraft, it shows the ability of their industry to think their own thoughts.
We'll be seeing more and more indigenous airframes now that they've annoyed the russians.....with their blatant IP theft....outright copying the Flankers that they were sold (produced as the J11). That's besides all the other stuff they've copied in the past.
They are known for it....I am surprised they are let anywhere near some of the things they get into. I was at a conference on stealth and similar subjects a while ago and one company was giving a talk and passing around samples of their materials....other attendees who had been their the previous year had seen the chinese putting the samples into their briefcases and walking out with them. They didn't get any tickets the year I attended!
Traveller said:
The cancelled Israeli LAVI is suspected of being the basis for this aircraft.
The Israelis have a bit of a habit of doing that.The Kfir was built from Mirage drawings and specs obtained using clandestine methods.
They poor sods didn't have much choice when the US screwed them on the Phantom order and no other f
ker would sell them half decent aircraft for fear of upsetting the Arabs.Fair play to them I say
The LAVI was an indigenous israeli design and not a redesign job like the kfir....if that's what you mean? Not sure of what you mean there Lefty?
There have been rumours knocking about a couple of forums I read that there has been an israeli presence at Chengdu...I don't know...seems a little strange to me. Occams razor would suggest that Chengdu just liked certain aspects of the design rather than the israelis being actively involved (covertly) in this aircrafts design.
There have been rumours knocking about a couple of forums I read that there has been an israeli presence at Chengdu...I don't know...seems a little strange to me. Occams razor would suggest that Chengdu just liked certain aspects of the design rather than the israelis being actively involved (covertly) in this aircrafts design.
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