Helicopter flying lessons...
Discussion
Hi guys,
I wasn't sure where to put this but helipcopters fly so thought it might be a good bet...
After 4 years of the frankly dreadful traffic in Sao Paulo I am thinking that the time might have come to bite the bullet and get a helicopter, at least for getaways out of the city...
Does anyone know how hard it is to learn, and any ideas on what a good first time copter would be??
Any pointers would be great, thanks
I wasn't sure where to put this but helipcopters fly so thought it might be a good bet...
After 4 years of the frankly dreadful traffic in Sao Paulo I am thinking that the time might have come to bite the bullet and get a helicopter, at least for getaways out of the city...
Does anyone know how hard it is to learn, and any ideas on what a good first time copter would be??
Any pointers would be great, thanks
Edited by harry010 on Thursday 17th June 16:45
harry010 said:
After 4 years of the frankly dreadful traffic in Sao Paulo I am thinking that the time might have come to bite the bullet and get a helicopter, at least for getaways out of the city...
Does anyone know how hard it is to learn, and any ideas on what a good first time copter would be??
Any pointers would be great, thanks
Helicopters are widely used for personal transport in Brazil. As suggested above, this is the best place to raise the question http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads-23/Does anyone know how hard it is to learn, and any ideas on what a good first time copter would be??
Any pointers would be great, thanks
IMO the best trainer is the Hughes/Schweizer 269/300C. What you buy/rent after that depends on the depths of your pockets

Can I suggest you visit www.helitorque.co.uk you will find the forum there much more friendly than PPRUNe!
It all depends on budget... some people learn on a Bell Jet ranger... at around £500/hour -with instructor..... Some people learn on the cheapest aircraft possible.. in my case it was the R-22 at £250ish/hour -with instructor. The r-22 is a good machine given how comparitivley little it costs to hire one...
It all depends on budget... some people learn on a Bell Jet ranger... at around £500/hour -with instructor..... Some people learn on the cheapest aircraft possible.. in my case it was the R-22 at £250ish/hour -with instructor. The r-22 is a good machine given how comparitivley little it costs to hire one...
tegwin said:
Can I suggest you visit www.helitorque.co.uk you will find the forum there much more friendly than PPRUNe!
It all depends on budget... some people learn on a Bell Jet ranger... at around £500/hour -with instructor..... Some people learn on the cheapest aircraft possible.. in my case it was
the R-22 at £250ish/hour -with
instructor. The r-22 is a good
machine given how comparitivley
little it costs to hire one...
thanks for your info, I shall check this out too, would you suggest hiring a heli even when I have my licence as I had only really considered the buying route.It all depends on budget... some people learn on a Bell Jet ranger... at around £500/hour -with instructor..... Some people learn on the cheapest aircraft possible.. in my case it was
the R-22 at £250ish/hour -with
instructor. The r-22 is a good
machine given how comparitivley
little it costs to hire one...
Depends how much spare cash you have and how much flying you are going to do..
If I had the money I would deffinately buy one... it would work out cheaper in the long run I am sure! But for the time being, I dont have the capital to be able to do that...
Some places will pay you to "rent" your aircraft from you.... wether you want other people messing with your machine is up to you...
If I had the money I would deffinately buy one... it would work out cheaper in the long run I am sure! But for the time being, I dont have the capital to be able to do that...
Some places will pay you to "rent" your aircraft from you.... wether you want other people messing with your machine is up to you...
Buying starts to make sense if you are doing 100+ hrs a year, especially if you structure it properly.
Then it's your machine, you have an intimate understanding of all its intricacies, you know how it has been looked after and maintained - no unmentioned 'overspeeds', 'hot starts', 'over-torques' or heavy landings.
It's there when and where you want it, and it can bring in some income through leasing to approved pilots.
Regular running costs are lower, although there will be a few 'biggies' each year - the 'annual' and the insurance.
Robinsons are popular, although I'm not a great fan (however R44 Raven II is quite good), but they suffer straight line depreciation because they have a finite life cycle.
It's true that helicopters are expensive, and there's no escaping that, but their sheer versatility and capabilities defies anything you can enjoy in any car or fixed wing.
Be warned though; helicopters are highly addictive - just ask Richard Hammond.
Then it's your machine, you have an intimate understanding of all its intricacies, you know how it has been looked after and maintained - no unmentioned 'overspeeds', 'hot starts', 'over-torques' or heavy landings.
It's there when and where you want it, and it can bring in some income through leasing to approved pilots.
Regular running costs are lower, although there will be a few 'biggies' each year - the 'annual' and the insurance.
Robinsons are popular, although I'm not a great fan (however R44 Raven II is quite good), but they suffer straight line depreciation because they have a finite life cycle.
It's true that helicopters are expensive, and there's no escaping that, but their sheer versatility and capabilities defies anything you can enjoy in any car or fixed wing.
Be warned though; helicopters are highly addictive - just ask Richard Hammond.
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