Apparently the RN still has battleships

[shouldbworking]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

[Eric Mc]

Modern journalists are not interested in getting the facts right.

Indeed, I have been accused of being a geek or a nerd here on PH for pointing such errors out.

Once upon a time knowldge of a subject was applauded.

In modern British society, knowledge is derided and those who possess it routinely insulted.

Consequently we get poorly researched, inaccurate and sub-standard reporting in the media.

[Simpo Two]

'Blair's children'

[Tsippy]

^^ Very true Eric, and sadly it is throughout society and not just the media. The education system been one of them

[Simpo Two]

Been one of them?

Has been one of them or being one of them?

'When pedants play'

[plasticpig]

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

[Tsippy]

^^ Hey I think I do well to say english is not my first language :P

[FourWheelDrift]

plasticpig said:

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

First Rate Ship of the Line, not a Battleship.

Mary Rose is a "Great Ship" and HMS Warrior a Masted Broadside Ironclad.

[Eric Mc]

It's nice to know that PH is the home of the geek

[andy400]

plasticpig said:

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

Pedantic and wrong in one simple post! Nice work.

[plasticpig]

FourWheelDrift said:

plasticpig said:

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

First Rate Ship of the Line, not a Battleship.

Mary Rose is a "Great Ship" and HMS Warrior a Masted Broadside Ironclad.

Ships of the line were all battleship's. Any ship with enough guns and tonnage to form part of the line of battle was a battleship.

[plasticpig]

andy400 said:

plasticpig said:

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

Pedantic and wrong in one simple post! Nice work.

Except I am right.....

[FourWheelDrift]

plasticpig said:

FourWheelDrift said:

plasticpig said:

shouldbworking said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/10457974...

article said:

Councillors are due to back a bid to sink an old battleship off the Dorset coast to create an artificial reef.

Offshore patrol vessels are now battleships? pedantry? maybe but it irked me

Well being pedantic the RN still does have a battleship. HMS Victory is still in commission as the flagship of the Second Sea Lord. Being a first rate ship of the line she is classed as a battleship.

First Rate Ship of the Line, not a Battleship.

Mary Rose is a "Great Ship" and HMS Warrior a Masted Broadside Ironclad.

Ships of the line were all battleship's. Any ship with enough guns and tonnage to form part of the line of battle was a battleship.

But that title was not used formally to describe such a ship until the late 19th Century with the 1870–1881 birth of the Battleship (the evolution from broadside ironclad to turret based guns) until the arrival of the Royal Sovereign Class Ships of 1889 and the following classes up to the Lord Nelson Class of 1905. These were called initially Battleships, but were re-named Pre-Dreadnought Battleships following the launch in 1906 of HMS Dreadnought.

[Ginetta G15 Girl]

FourWheelDrift said:

HMS Warrior a Masted Broadside Ironclad.

The current HMS warrior is a shore station at Northwood, home to the Permanent Joint Headquarters, COMNAVFOR NORTH and CinC Fleet.

It always makes me chuckle - only the Fish-heads could have a post called CinC Fleet (Sink Fleet).

[shouldbworking]

Well look at that - a bit of bad reporting can actually lead to an increase in knowledge

[Simpo Two]

Well I've been outgeeked here. All I can add (without cheating and firing up Wikipedia) is that the RNs last battleship was HMS Vanguard, launched in 1946. And I think the USN's last ones were Iowa, Missouri and New Jersey, one of which turned into the General Belgrano and struck a torpedo.

[FourWheelDrift]

General Belgrano was the former Brooklyn Class heavy cruiser USS Phoenix. A survivor of the attack on Pearl Harbour.

[Taffer]

Simpo Two said:

Well I've been outgeeked here. All I can add (without cheating and firing up Wikipedia) is that the RNs last battleship was HMS Vanguard, launched in 1946. And I think the USN's last ones were Iowa, Missouri and New Jersey, one of which turned into the General Belgrano and struck a torpedo.

The Belgrano was formerly the USS Phoenix which was a cruiser, not a battleship. The Iowa-class battleships (4 of) were not retired until the 90s, some having seen action in the 'first' Gulf War.

[Simpo Two]

That'll teach me to be brave and not check first. (I bet you lot did!)

[plasticpig]

Taffer said:

Simpo Two said:

Well I've been outgeeked here. All I can add (without cheating and firing up Wikipedia) is that the RNs last battleship was HMS Vanguard, launched in 1946. And I think the USN's last ones were Iowa, Missouri and New Jersey, one of which turned into the General Belgrano and struck a torpedo.

The Belgrano was formerly the USS Phoenix which was a cruiser, not a battleship. The Iowa-class battleships (4 of) were not retired until the 90s, some having seen action in the 'first' Gulf War.

IIRC they were retired and then reactivated. Partly to counter the Soviet Kirov class ships and secondly as a reaction to the Exocet hits on RN ships in the Falklands war.