So, getting a boat then...
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Please excuse the naivety of the following!
I have a plan in my head. It involves getting a boat, similar to this:
Then going to a small seaside town, chucking it into the sea and pissing off for the day, coming back and hauling it out again then going somewhere else and repeating the exercise the next day.
I'm guessing it's not this simple.
Are there loads of tests I need to do and reams of paperwork to get?
Any pointers would be great.
I have a plan in my head. It involves getting a boat, similar to this:
Then going to a small seaside town, chucking it into the sea and pissing off for the day, coming back and hauling it out again then going somewhere else and repeating the exercise the next day.
I'm guessing it's not this simple.
Are there loads of tests I need to do and reams of paperwork to get?
Any pointers would be great.
For leisure use, you don't need much in the way of paperwork at all. A VHF certificate and insurance are a very good idea though, as is doing one of the RYA powerboat courses if you have no prior experience.
There are plenty of places to launch, though they all have their own rules and requirements depending on who owns it. Typically you can't just roll up at any beach and launch, though most places have a launching facility nearby.
There are plenty of places to launch, though they all have their own rules and requirements depending on who owns it. Typically you can't just roll up at any beach and launch, though most places have a launching facility nearby.
Ritchie335is said:
Ok, so all I NEED is a radio license, but I SHOULD get loads more stuff. There doesn't seem to be a boat license as there is with cars. Is the insurance 3rd party in case I reverse it into someone's million pound superyacht or just for me in case I sink or it catches fire?RYA Advanced course looks the most appropriate based on where I'm planning on going. As for boats and kit I guess I'm best off just going to a boat shop (i'm getting the hang of this already
) and they'll sell me the right gear to go with whatever (no doubt hugely overspecced) boat they sell me.As for yomping around the sea, is there any concept of trespassing or is the sea just, well, the sea? Obviously I can't just thunder up onto someone's beach and jump off, but is it more complicated than that?
Sorry for sounding like a bit of a knob on this, I'm just trying to work out if my ideal is actually tying up with reality. I'm not off out to buy a boat tomorrow, just exploring whether it's worth the bother or not.
agent006 said:
Ok, so all I NEED is a radio license, but I SHOULD get loads more stuff. There doesn't seem to be a boat license as there is with cars. Is the insurance 3rd party in case I reverse it into someone's million pound superyacht or just for me in case I sink or it catches fire?
RYA Advanced course looks the most appropriate based on where I'm planning on going. As for boats and kit I guess I'm best off just going to a boat shop (i'm getting the hang of this already) and they'll sell me the right gear to go with whatever (no doubt hugely overspecced) boat they sell me.
As for yomping around the sea, is there any concept of trespassing or is the sea just, well, the sea? Obviously I can't just thunder up onto someone's beach and jump off, but is it more complicated than that?
Sorry for sounding like a bit of a knob on this, I'm just trying to work out if my ideal is actually tying up with reality. I'm not off out to buy a boat tomorrow, just exploring whether it's worth the bother or not.
Insurance is for both 3rd party liability and for your own losses. You really don't want to know about the repair costs if you damage another boat.RYA Advanced course looks the most appropriate based on where I'm planning on going. As for boats and kit I guess I'm best off just going to a boat shop (i'm getting the hang of this already
) and they'll sell me the right gear to go with whatever (no doubt hugely overspecced) boat they sell me.As for yomping around the sea, is there any concept of trespassing or is the sea just, well, the sea? Obviously I can't just thunder up onto someone's beach and jump off, but is it more complicated than that?
Sorry for sounding like a bit of a knob on this, I'm just trying to work out if my ideal is actually tying up with reality. I'm not off out to buy a boat tomorrow, just exploring whether it's worth the bother or not.
The sea is pretty much the sea and you can usually go where you like, but there are exceptions to this. Harbours tend to have their own rules, and there are always traffic separation schemes to be aware of. This type of thing is usually marked on a chart, so knowing how to read one is a good idea. Rivers also sometimes have their own byelaws. You also need to know the collision regulations, and how to navigate with respect to other vessels. All of that would be covered on the appropriate course so while you don't have to do one, it would be foolish not to.
agent006 said:
Ritchie335is said:
There doesn't seem to be a boat license as there is with cars. .agent006 said:
Ritchie335is said:
Ok, so all I NEED is a radio license, but I SHOULD get loads more stuff. There doesn't seem to be a boat license as there is with cars. Is the insurance 3rd party in case I reverse it into someone's million pound superyacht or just for me in case I sink or it catches fire?RYA Advanced course looks the most appropriate based on where I'm planning on going. As for boats and kit I guess I'm best off just going to a boat shop (i'm getting the hang of this already
) and they'll sell me the right gear to go with whatever (no doubt hugely overspecced) boat they sell me.As for yomping around the sea, is there any concept of trespassing or is the sea just, well, the sea? Obviously I can't just thunder up onto someone's beach and jump off, but is it more complicated than that?
Sorry for sounding like a bit of a knob on this, I'm just trying to work out if my ideal is actually tying up with reality. I'm not off out to buy a boat tomorrow, just exploring whether it's worth the bother or not.
agent006 said:
Please excuse the naivety of the following!
I have a plan in my head. It involves getting a boat, similar to this:
Then going to a small seaside town, chucking it into the sea and pissing off for the day, coming back and hauling it out again then going somewhere else and repeating the exercise the next day.
I'm guessing it's not this simple.
As well as all of the previously mentioned training you'll also have to take into consideration which slipways you are going to use and whether they are restricted in use by the tide. Here on The Medway you'll be lucky to get a full day out unless you're in and out on seperate high tides (or keep the boat in the water).I have a plan in my head. It involves getting a boat, similar to this:
Then going to a small seaside town, chucking it into the sea and pissing off for the day, coming back and hauling it out again then going somewhere else and repeating the exercise the next day.
I'm guessing it's not this simple.
You can roll up onto almost any beach round here but again most of these are restricted by the tide.
Don't forget that at the end of the day you will also want to run some fresh water through the engine to flush it out and give the boat a thorough wash down and check over.
As I said in the other threads.
Training. Training. Training.
Don't even THINK about taking your family out without proper tuition.
Newbies;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire...
Very sad indeed, and completely avoidable.
Training. Training. Training.
Don't even THINK about taking your family out without proper tuition.
Newbies;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire...
Very sad indeed, and completely avoidable.
agent006 said:
Is now a bad time to mention I can't swim?
Nope, I can't swim either.In fact, most other Yachtmasters I know can't swim.
Odd, but seems you either like to be on the sea or in the sea, but not both.
Six months solid sailing and the wettest I got was paddling, ankle deep, down the beach after a night in a bar at Talamanca Bay in Ibiza.
Swimming. Pah.
Powerboat level 2 . Oh and if you don't remember anything else KILL CORD , KILL CORD , KILL CORD seen to many chopped and dead............
http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_...
Here is one I was at the scene of doing demos for a another RIB company, and good number since. Especially 6 years in Carib where they are your daily mode of transport as most charter boats live on the pick as marinas are to expensive.
One young guy I trained also months later decided not to wear his cord which resulted in the near death of his mate with a huge law suit. I also nearly got dragged into it because I had trained him even though he had been told a many many times on the course about the Kill Cord and the end result.
http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_...
Here is one I was at the scene of doing demos for a another RIB company, and good number since. Especially 6 years in Carib where they are your daily mode of transport as most charter boats live on the pick as marinas are to expensive.
One young guy I trained also months later decided not to wear his cord which resulted in the near death of his mate with a huge law suit. I also nearly got dragged into it because I had trained him even though he had been told a many many times on the course about the Kill Cord and the end result.
Edited by Rum Runner on Wednesday 14th July 14:24
maser_spyder said:
As I said in the other threads.
Training. Training. Training.
Don't even THINK about taking your family out without proper tuition.
Newbies;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire...
Very sad indeed, and completely avoidable.
Completely agree. The MAIB report makes harrowing reading and I quote:Training. Training. Training.
Don't even THINK about taking your family out without proper tuition.
Newbies;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire...
Very sad indeed, and completely avoidable.
"The skipper’s and crew’s lack of training and qualification in the use and operation of small craft contributed significantly to the accident."
http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_...
agent006 said:
maser_spyder said:
Just checked your profile OP - are you still in Cheltenham?....
Yes, that well known coastal seaport Edited by agent006 on Wednesday 14th July 18:53
Will be testing my jet boats again in the next couple of weeks if you fancy a blast followed by beer.
pm me if you fancy it, we'll just shoot over to the river at Apperley and carefully observe the speed limit.
Apologies to the OP!
I've just read the above posts and linkies...
My brother's always talking about buying a boat (he lives in Bournemouth) as he thinks it's simply a matter of "common sense" when skippering one.
I've told hiom time and time again that he MUST know what he's doing, and not be be a knob and buy a large cabin cruiser type boat with no training whatsoever. Poole and/or Christchurch harbours aren't exactly the quietest to use!
I'll direct him to this thread so he can see what you've all said, and that I've posted about him being a knob for thinking it's really easy!
As you were ....
I've just read the above posts and linkies...
My brother's always talking about buying a boat (he lives in Bournemouth) as he thinks it's simply a matter of "common sense" when skippering one.
I've told hiom time and time again that he MUST know what he's doing, and not be be a knob and buy a large cabin cruiser type boat with no training whatsoever. Poole and/or Christchurch harbours aren't exactly the quietest to use!
I'll direct him to this thread so he can see what you've all said, and that I've posted about him being a knob for thinking it's really easy!
As you were ....
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