Motor sailer vs yacht
Discussion
There's a good thread here: http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57872
I think an exact definition that everyone agrees with is pretty unlikely. What's the difference between a deck saloon yacht and a motor sailer?
I think an exact definition that everyone agrees with is pretty unlikely. What's the difference between a deck saloon yacht and a motor sailer?
VERY Generally speaking a sailing yacht will perform (much) better under sail than a motor sailer and isn't geared up to run both sail and motor together in "hybrid" fashion as a true motor sailer should be. Often motor sailers will have a less sailing specific hull and have abit more standing room, a raised cabin and creature comforts in line with its less sporting credentials.
Been looking at a Macgregor 26 as a good boat for a small family sailer / cruiser. Seems well designed and the videos are pretty impressive. Doesn't try to be the best at either but a very good compromise. Anyone got one or got views?
The extras or options list is fairly extensive and pushes up the price significantly. Not that many 2nd hand ones about and they do seem to hold their value.
Must say I'm tempted .....Think the trailer needs upgraded for UK road use.
Scotty2
The extras or options list is fairly extensive and pushes up the price significantly. Not that many 2nd hand ones about and they do seem to hold their value.
Must say I'm tempted .....Think the trailer needs upgraded for UK road use.
Scotty2
Scotty2 said:
Been looking at a Macgregor 26 as a good boat for a small family sailer / cruiser. Seems well designed and the videos are pretty impressive. Doesn't try to be the best at either but a very good compromise. Anyone got one or got views?
The extras or options list is fairly extensive and pushes up the price significantly. Not that many 2nd hand ones about and they do seem to hold their value.
Must say I'm tempted .....Think the trailer needs upgraded for UK road use.
Scotty2
Steer clear the build quality is poor. Very poor sailing boat and poor motorboat. We used there build video at boat building school as a example of how not to built boats...The extras or options list is fairly extensive and pushes up the price significantly. Not that many 2nd hand ones about and they do seem to hold their value.
Must say I'm tempted .....Think the trailer needs upgraded for UK road use.
Scotty2
You really need to decide if you want to sail or go powerboating.
Remember also trailer sailing on this size of boat is a mega faff, so much so it will deter you form using it because of the hassle involved.
I used to campaign a First Class 8 and can tell you one that lives in the water is much easier.
Edited by Rum Runner on Tuesday 13th July 12:28
What you want is an MRCB37. I can't find any pictures, but basically it's a 37' yacht that looks like a yacht. 165hp turbo diesel driving contra rotating props on a retractable saildrive leg, and the clever bit is that the aft sections move down hydraulically to give a planing surface for high speed power cruising. Very cool!
(Still rather have a proper yacht though...)
(Still rather have a proper yacht though...)
http://sunzi1.lib.hku.hk/hkjo/view/17/1701858.pdf
Ooh Airship and MRCB on same page. Looks similar to the Macgreggor. As I couldn't find it easily I suppose there are none for sale........
Ah well,
What is a good yacht for 2 adults and 3 children that can take a small outboard and be trailered. Forget fast motoring, just sailing and chugging against the tide?
Ooh Airship and MRCB on same page. Looks similar to the Macgreggor. As I couldn't find it easily I suppose there are none for sale........
Ah well,
What is a good yacht for 2 adults and 3 children that can take a small outboard and be trailered. Forget fast motoring, just sailing and chugging against the tide?
Edited by Scotty2 on Tuesday 13th July 20:11
Hi
You need to determine what sailing activities you will be doing.
As said by others - a striaght motor sailer wont perform much as a sailing boat but there are compromises. Look up the LM range - that falls into a deck saloon / motor sailer but on test the LM33 was able to hold onto a Sigma 33 ( cruiser / racer ) sailing round the Isle of Wight. There are others but it all depends on what you want to do then how much you wish to spend.
Remember this - the best day in you life ( sailing wise ) is the day you buy your boat and the next is selling it !
I have a 40ft fin keeled ex racing boat and have just done 5000 miles in the atlantic and would only go for a sailing boat - must be mad as also have a TVR !
Good luck
Mark
You need to determine what sailing activities you will be doing.
As said by others - a striaght motor sailer wont perform much as a sailing boat but there are compromises. Look up the LM range - that falls into a deck saloon / motor sailer but on test the LM33 was able to hold onto a Sigma 33 ( cruiser / racer ) sailing round the Isle of Wight. There are others but it all depends on what you want to do then how much you wish to spend.
Remember this - the best day in you life ( sailing wise ) is the day you buy your boat and the next is selling it !
I have a 40ft fin keeled ex racing boat and have just done 5000 miles in the atlantic and would only go for a sailing boat - must be mad as also have a TVR !
Good luck
Mark
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