Firefighting tanker dropping its load affecting how it flies
Firefighting tanker dropping its load affecting how it flies
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Original Poster:

11,321 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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I saw this video as a link from another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzwS8Gv27J8&fea...

It got me thinking, how does dropping so much weight in one go affect how it flies in that short space of time?

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Simpo Two

92,639 posts

294 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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20,000 gallons of water is 200,000lbs which is 89 tons = 9 Grand Slam bombs!

I guess it all comes down to maintaining the C of G within set limits.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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Yep, the water is fed out at about the cg, taking it all from tanks at such a rate that trim is kept within limits. Is that the evergreen 747 firebomber? Am on phone so I can't get to the vid.

I think dropping stuff out the back of hercs or c17s is a bit more risky.....I think there is definite elevator correction by the pilot when dropping the big stuff.

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Wednesday 12th January 2011
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coanda said:
I think dropping stuff out the back of hercs or c17s is a bit more risky.....I think there is definite elevator correction by the pilot when dropping the big stuff.
Yes. Quite a trim change (and a fair bit of elevator input) when dropping MSPs (Medium Stressed Platform).

Flintstone

8,644 posts

276 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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I've spoken to waterbombing pilots who tell me that some models require a fairly large effort to hold the aircraft attitude until the trim gets sorted out. Watching them training, scooping up and dropping the water a few seconds after rotation, is a good way to pass time.

Simpo Two

92,639 posts

294 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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I'm glad I don't have to fill it from an outisde tap and 5 metres of Hozelock's finest...

magpie215

5,016 posts

218 months

Friday 14th January 2011
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
coanda said:
I think dropping stuff out the back of hercs or c17s is a bit more risky.....I think there is definite elevator correction by the pilot when dropping the big stuff.
Yes. Quite a trim change (and a fair bit of elevator input) when dropping MSPs (Medium Stressed Platform).
I Seem to remember from the bbc series test pilots that the ETPS were tasked with checking how much force was required on the yoke when a palletized load was dropped out the back.

they had some kind of gauge on the control yoke which measured the pilots input forces

ETA...yes I did remember correctly....2:30 into the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGBL9GWn2LM

Edited by magpie215 on Friday 14th January 19:28