Light aircraft down on radar
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The C210 is a stable machine, the Toyota HiLux of the bush, and kept me out of trouble for over 1000 hours.
Making an enormous assumption I'd ask if they were in IMC (cloud) at the time. A lot of private pilots don't fly enough to keep their instrument flying skills up. Take away the autopilot all of a sudden or even worse gradually so there's an insidious loss of control and you have to be really on the ball to recover.
Vale.
Making an enormous assumption I'd ask if they were in IMC (cloud) at the time. A lot of private pilots don't fly enough to keep their instrument flying skills up. Take away the autopilot all of a sudden or even worse gradually so there's an insidious loss of control and you have to be really on the ball to recover.
Vale.
aceparts said:
Stupid question here but what is the problem of a low hours or whatever pilot flying in cloud? Is it not a case of looking at the dials to keep the blue bit at the top and wings level etc?
Flying raw instruments in genuine turbulent IMC - particularly if you're having equipment problems - is just about the most stressful and demanding thing you can be required to do as a pilot. If various systems start to fail you have a very short period of time to work out what you can trust and what you can't. blambert said:
Wow. Change of pants please.
aceparts said:
Stupid question here but what is the problem of a low hours or whatever pilot flying in cloud? Is it not a case of looking at the dials to keep the blue bit at the top and wings level etc?
Instrument flying is not easy. It takes a lot of practice to be good at it. Even then, the physiology of the human body's balance system (the otoliths and semi-circular canals in the middle ear) conspire to produce all sorts of strong illusions that can be at variance with what you are seeing on your instruments (even in smooth air conditions) - for eg the 'Pitch Up illusion or the 'Coriolis Illusion', which can be lethal for the inexperienced pilot (and has been lethal for many experienced pilots).Furthermore it is easy to become fixated on a single instrument to the detriment of a good 'scan'.
As Eharding says, couple this with equipment failure(s), especially in bad weather, and the distraction this can cause and you (may) have a recipe for disaster.
Trust me I was a 'Master Green' instrument pilot and still found it quite tough at times.
Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Monday 28th February 22:26
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Instrument flying is not easy. It takes a lot of practice to be good at it. Even then, the physiology of the human body's balance system (the otoliths and semi-circular canals in the middle ear) conspire to produce all sorts of strong illusions that can be at variance with what you are seeing on your instruments (even in smooth air conditions), which can be lethal for the inexperienced pilot (and has been lethal for many experienced pilots).
Furthermore it is easy to become fixated on a single instrument to the detriment of a good 'scan'.
As Eharding says, couple this with equipment failure(s), especially in bad weather, and the distraction this can cause and you (may) have a recipe for disaster.
Trust me I was a 'Master Green' instrument pilot and still found it quite tough at times.
Thanks, you've summed up why I'm happy to pay rather than learn to fly myself!Furthermore it is easy to become fixated on a single instrument to the detriment of a good 'scan'.
As Eharding says, couple this with equipment failure(s), especially in bad weather, and the distraction this can cause and you (may) have a recipe for disaster.
Trust me I was a 'Master Green' instrument pilot and still found it quite tough at times.
aceparts said:
Thanks, you've summed up why I'm happy to pay rather than learn to fly myself!
Don't let that put you off.A basic PPL includes a small amount of instrument training - just enough to hammer home the point about how difficult things get, and to make a 180 turn to get yourself out of the clag. You can have a huge amount of fun flying day VFR and accepting the fact that sometimes the weather just isn't going to play ball.
eharding said:
Don't let that put you off.
A basic PPL includes a small amount of instrument training - just enough to hammer home the point about how difficult things get, and to make a 180 turn to get yourself out of the clag.
And when you get to doing 'IF' it is extremely satisfying to do, especially when you do it well!A basic PPL includes a small amount of instrument training - just enough to hammer home the point about how difficult things get, and to make a 180 turn to get yourself out of the clag.
You just have to treat it with the respect it deserves (as you do with all flying).
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