Cooking a fillet steak?
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paddyhasneeds

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66,974 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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OK so a noddy question but I'm sure there are a few ways to skin this particular cat.

You have 2 steaks. One person wants on medium well, the other medium rare. The steaks are pretty equally sized.

What's the best approach?

I ask as obviously just giving one longer on each side results in a crust that is bordering on burnt.

spikeyhead

20,274 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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If the steak has been raised to room temperature before cooking, which means a couple of hours out of the fridge, then you won't burn the outside when cooking to medium well done.

Digger

16,759 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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I don't mean to sound patronising but if that is the result you are getting then you might need to turn the heat down a smidgeon! Sounds obvious I know. smile

paddyhasneeds

Original Poster:

66,974 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Digger said:
I don't mean to sound patronising but if that is the result you are getting then you might need to turn the heat down a smidgeon! Sounds obvious I know. smile
No not all, as I said, lots of ways to skin a cat. I should stress that I don't mean literally burnt, but more than a little bit of a crust. I always believed the rule of thumb was very hot pan, steak brushed in olive oil, popped directly into dry hot pan.

Digger

16,759 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
Digger said:
I don't mean to sound patronising but if that is the result you are getting then you might need to turn the heat down a smidgeon! Sounds obvious I know. smile
No not all, as I said, lots of ways to skin a cat. I should stress that I don't mean literally burnt, but more than a little bit of a crust. I always believed the rule of thumb was very hot pan, steak brushed in olive oil, popped directly into dry hot pan.
I think any competently cooked steak will always have a crust. There's really no getting away from it. When I first started cooking steaks I thought I had blown it when I believed I had been over-zealous with the heat but they generally turned out fine even though I thought they looked nuked!

paddyhasneeds

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66,974 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Sounds like I'm doing it right then and not having enough faith in the end product. I'm a very fussy bugger with burnt food and I'm happy with medium rare, and the medium rare fillet with a bit of a crust does taste amazing if I say so myself, but I find it difficult to simply let it carry on cooking for those who want it better done as I'm assuming it's burning - seems the trick is to just carry on cooking it.

shakotan

10,862 posts

224 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Preheat oven to 200C

Room temperature steaks, seasoned and oiled.

Pan smoking hot - steaks in 1 minute per side, both then straight into oven. 4 mins for the med rare, 8 mins for the med well.

Serve.

Edited by shakotan on Sunday 8th May 19:41

sherman

15,179 posts

243 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Also I would suggest changing your oil as this may be causing the burning (crust) on the outside of the steak.

Olive oil has a lower burning temperature than other oils. Nut oils have the highest burning temperature.

http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/collectedinfo/oilsm...

escargot

17,123 posts

245 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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shakotan said:
Preheat oven to 200C

Room temperature steaks, seasoned and oiled.

Pan smoking hot - steaks in 1 minute per side, both then straight into oven. 4 mins for the med rare, 8 mins for the med well.

Serve.

Edited by shakotan on Sunday 8th May 19:41
8 mins for medium well at 200c???

Rutter

2,085 posts

234 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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shakotan said:
Preheat oven to 200C

Room temperature steaks, seasoned and oiled.

Pan smoking hot - steaks in 1 minute per side, both then straight into oven. 4 mins for the med rare, 8 mins for the med well.

Serve.

Edited by shakotan on Sunday 8th May 19:41
How thick are these steaks?

cccscotland

418 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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paddyhasneeds said:
OK so a noddy question but I'm sure there are a few ways to skin this particular cat.

You have 2 steaks. One person wants on medium well, the other medium rare. The steaks are pretty equally sized.

What's the best approach?

I ask as obviously just giving one longer on each side results in a crust that is bordering on burnt.
Get some skirt steak and give that to the medium well person. What is the point of serving fillet med-well?

As others have said, the steak MUST be room temp. Use nut oil, and MUST season with plenty of good sea-salt and black pepper. Get the pan as hot as humanly possible. Put steak in for a couple of mins then turn. Use the thumb rule to judge wellness (google it), and once your're happy with one you MUST put it in a warm place (100 deg oven?) to rest for 5 mins. For the more welldone one, turn it until both sides meet the rule of thumb. Then rest as above.

Serve with the juices that come out during the resting period.

IMHO for the ultimate steak forget fillet and go for a 28 day aged ribeye. The extra fat in the cut with dissolve giving a super tender steak with much more flavour....

hornetrider

63,161 posts

233 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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This thread is making me drool. Steak tonight!

BrabusMog

21,733 posts

214 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Do these fry and oven methods work for sirloin? I've got people comin over in 45 mins and I thought I had filet and just realised it's sirloin! Help please! At least the trip chips will be good I guess!

grumbledoak

32,540 posts

261 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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They'll work, and restaurants do it, but you don't need to do it if you can get them all in the pan(s).

http://thepauperedchef.com/node/406

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

310 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Personally I've never understood these "double definitions". To me, there is well, medium, rare and blue. I don't actually know the difference between "medium well" and "medium rare".

Don't cook them straight from the fridge. Bung one on before the other. The one you put on later, take it off earlier. If a vet can't revive it, it's cooked.

Done.

BrabusMog

21,733 posts

214 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Lads, that fry then oven method is top drawer - I was getting compliments and even I couldn't find fault! Good chips helped, but that's a true revelation!

pokethepope

2,667 posts

216 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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BrabusMog said:
Lads, that fry then oven method is top drawer - I was getting compliments and even I couldn't find fault! Good chips helped, but that's a true revelation!
I have a sirloin in the fridge for tomorrow, what time and temp did you use?

Pints

18,451 posts

222 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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Definite bookmark for me. I had a steak on the griddle a couple of nights ago. 7/10

I need the leisure of a weekend to try above method out.

BrabusMog

21,733 posts

214 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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@pokethepope - I had the steaks covered in olive oil, salt and pepper at room temp for about an hour, preheated fan oven to 200 and I had the frying pan as hot as it could get. Chucked a nob of butter in, cooked for one minute either side then 4 mins in the oven.

Best sirloin I've ever cooked, let us know how you get on.

Digger

16,759 posts

219 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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How did it turn out BM? Medium Rare?