What is the attraction of alcohol?
What is the attraction of alcohol?
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tim2100

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6,288 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I enjoy the occasional drink, I like having a drink in the pub with friend occasionally. However when talking to a close friend who is tea total and has never drunk in her life, I have difficulty in explaining why alcohol is so agreeable.

When I first drank I disliked the taste but persevered, some drinks I still don't like, she doesn't like the taste and can only see the bad side of drink.
For instance, she was raped by a drunk university friend, she was attacked by drunk older siblings when young, her ex husband was abusive when drunk.
So when I try to explain why alcohol is so agreeable she comes back with the above and cannot see the attraction of a drink that doesn't taste nice and makes you feel crap the next day.

Over to you.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

233 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Well obviously when I have a lovely cold, cool pint I don't turn into a psycho rapist.

So it's fine.

Carthage

4,261 posts

172 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I can't understand why you would even have that conversation with her?

Her reasons seem valid enough to me - some men (and some women) can be aholes when drunk.

LeeMad

1,098 posts

181 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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its fun. tell her you dont see the point in high heels, theyre expensive and hurt to wear.

Carthage

4,261 posts

172 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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LeeMad said:
its fun. tell her you dont see the point in high heels, theyre expensive and hurt to wear.
They seldom affect the personality/behaviour of the wearer though. tongue out

Besides, I thought men liked high heels more than women do? wink

ewenm

28,506 posts

273 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I don't drink drinks that I don't like the taste of, and I try to avoid drinking enough to feel unwell the next day (don't always succeed of course!).

So why do it? Because I like the taste. There's a difference between having a drink and getting/being drunk.

bitchstewie

67,105 posts

238 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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There's nothing wrong with alcohol.

What I personally don't get is when it's the main event i.e. people go out pretty much with the aim of getting drunk and anything less is failure and is not considered a successful night out.

slaveunit

188 posts

190 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Many people think its acceptable to be on the phone whilst driving, and I have a problem with it as I know a biker who was killed by one. I dont know anyone who has been killed by a driving eating crisps, and I dont see the problem with eating crisps whilst driving, but others with a history otherwise will probably frown on me as I munch away on them in the traffic.

With that kind of history associated to alcohol im not surprised!

StottyZr

6,860 posts

191 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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In the response to the thread title. It gives me confidence and is essentially happiness in a can.

I owe a lot to alcohol

IanCormac

1,894 posts

221 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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It's fun.

anonymous-user

82 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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ewenm said:
So why do it? Because I like the taste. There's a difference between having a drink and getting/being drunk.
This.

Like most people in my late teens and early 20's, I drank to get drunk, but now at 32 I have pretty much shunned every drink I don't actually enjoy.

I now very much enjoy the tastes of finer red and white wines, Vodka, and some other spirits. I can't stand cheap wines or spirits (or most beers) and more are rarely get 'completely pissed'.

I now drink because I find it refreshing, relaxing and as above the taste of finer booze.

I would be lying if I said I didn't also enjoy the slightly euphoric mental state and reduced stress levels that alcohol also causes smile

wst

3,504 posts

189 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Reasons I like alcohol: lowers lack-of-confidence, makes me into some kind of social butterfly, yada yada.

Reasons I dislike it: Unrelated to the social-butterfly-aspect actually, but sometimes I get a bit generous with the "fine, my round" thing... (well, 2 times. Nowadays I take x amount of cash with me and no cards and it's self-limiting generosity. By the time I'm at the 'generous' stage I am unable to spend...). And the waking-up the next morning thing. Without fail I'm awake before 9, when pre-booze I was happy to lie in until 12... (I get so much more done on a boozy weekend as a result!)

Edit: Would like to note I drink primarily for the taste. Tried tequila shots, for example, they are foul. Lager is more my thing at this point in my life... (getting the gut and everything frown)

Landlord

12,689 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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tim2100 said:
For instance, she was raped by a drunk university friend, she was attacked by drunk older siblings when young, her ex husband was abusive when drunk.
So when I try to explain why alcohol is so agreeable she comes back with the above
Dude - pick your battles. You'll never justify anything to someone who's gone through that! Just agree that it's terrible and what on earth are you thinking when you decide to drink.

But carry on anyway.

Then get more and more lecherous towards her as the night goes on. Perhaps leaping out on her when she's coming back from the loos etc.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

234 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Carthage said:
They seldom affect the personality/behaviour of the wearer though.
Nor does alcohol. A drunk, violent, abusive, is just a violent, abusive, , who happens to be drunk.

It's not surprising the lady has negative psychological associations with alcohol that are probably unlikely to be altered by "Well I like it really, there's not much more to it than that."

It's not law that everyone must like alcohol so far as I'm aware. Just like anything else.

Landlord

12,689 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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I should also add that my answer to the OP's titular question would be, in my professional capacity, that it allows me to pay the mortgage.

Assuming the attraction is with customers rather than just myself (as it sometimes seems nowadays!)

Dusty964

7,288 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Dusty964

7,288 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Disregarding the picture posted previously, I would say that the attractions are social.

To me, going for a pint with mates is sacred. The chance-after a long week at work- to sit and talk nonsense for a couple of hours is the perfect way to unwind from the stress of work.
Although I drink far, far less frequently than I used to, to me, a beer simply is the perfect partner to virtually any situation. 4 days camping near a motor race in France? Certainly Sir, that will be crate after crate of whichever lager was on offer at Carrefour. I really couldn't contemplate NOT having too much beer whilst I was there, in fact if I'm honest, I most likely wouldn't go if I knew I couldn't have a few. Same with most things as above- weddings are far better with a drink or two, rugby is best watched with a crowd of like-minded individuals with a pint or several. The list is virtually endless, almost every situation can be improved by a beer.

That isn't the ramblings of an alky- far from it- and I can see how a great deal of people have problems with alcohol, but to be blunt, for me, I will be honest enough to say that I enjoy having a few beers and generally being immature, and long may it continue.

Speed addicted

6,324 posts

255 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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StottyZr said:
In the response to the thread title. It gives me confidence and is essentially happiness in a can.

I owe a lot to alcohol
Pretty much this. I'm much more fun while pissed. I do tend to drink too much, sometimes far too much. I'm not an agressive drunk though and very rarely have any hassle.
I drink when I'm happy and I drink when I'm sad, it's been a way of life since my mid teens.

My brother in law managed to drink himself to death at the grand old age of 42, I greeted this news by getting smashed as soon as possible!

Robb F

4,614 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Simply because humans love drugs. That's why we've invented/discovered so many of them.

Tunku

7,703 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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What was it Homer Simpson said?

"To alcohol! The cause of... and solution to... all of life's problems"