Jam and copper pots
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jmorgan

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Sunday 28th July 2013
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Whilst I cannot make any bread due to oven issues I am back on the jam.

OK, I hear there is an issue using a copper jam pot, that is poisoning the jam. I would imaging that as copper pots have been is use for generations, it is not quite straight forward and may well be a bit of a fib. Anyone know anything about this? I fancy trying copper instead of the stock pot I normally use.

Just finished making a few pounds of rhubarb and expecting 7-10lbs of black currants of my plants that will be jamed.

Russ T Bolt

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312 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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We used a copper preserve pan for many years, it was great.

Got rid of it a couple of years ago when we had an induction hob fitted.

jmorgan

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Sunday 28th July 2013
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I understand it is the mutts for making jam. Getting the setting point can be a bit of an uphill struggle in the non stick pot I have now. But this bit about a slow poison needs knocking on the head before I get one. Or stainless if it is true.

MyM2006

297 posts

173 months

Sunday 28th July 2013
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I looked into that briefly when someone told me the same thing and panicked me.

Copper is poisonous if it leeches out of the pan but this only happens with very acidic items or if left a long time. when mixed with sugar the acidic fruit is not really a concern however if you were to make tomato chutney then it is much more of a risk because of the lower sugar content.

Obviously if you use a lined copper pot then that doesn't apply unless the lining has worn out.

Mobile Chicane

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241 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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bks.

Humanity has been using copper pots for hundreds (if not thousands) of years, without dying like flies. smile

jmorgan

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Monday 29th July 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
bks.

Humanity has been using copper pots for hundreds (if not thousands) of years, without dying like flies. smile
My thoughts but as I am passing this around the family it has obvious concerns and we do have a longer life span nowadays.....

So a lined pan to be on the safe side. Problem is you have to simmer some of the tough skinned fruit and I have found with black currant this needs a while. So I am doing this before I add the sugar which means all that acidic stuff is having a go at the pan?

Alternatively, I use my non stick to simmer and the copper to take the sugared mix to get it to setting point scratchchin

MyM2006

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173 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Doesn't take long to cook the blackcurrants, 20 minutes?

The copper exposure is only really an issue over a long period of time, you wont suddenly drop dead because you cooked your fruit for 30 minutes instead of 20. People just like to be over cautious when there is a confirmed risk, however slight.

I cook mine in a copper pot and I'm not dead as far as I know.

karona

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215 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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'er indoors is an old pro in the kitchen, and declares absolutely that you can make jam in a copper pot, provided you are adding sugar.

"Getting right to the point, an unlined copper pan is safe when you use it to cook a mixture of fruit and sugar. It’s not safe for fruit without added sugar."
http://hitchhikingtoheaven.com/2010/06/is-it-safe-...

jmorgan

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Monday 29th July 2013
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MyM2006 said:
Doesn't take long to cook the blackcurrants, 20 minutes?

The copper exposure is only really an issue over a long period of time, you wont suddenly drop dead because you cooked your fruit for 30 minutes instead of 20. People just like to be over cautious when there is a confirmed risk, however slight.

I cook mine in a copper pot and I'm not dead as far as I know.
Depends on the consistency I am after but not far out.

Cheers karona. Copper pot it is then but understand the risk. Need to get some rhubarb done as well.