Any grape vine experts out there?
Any grape vine experts out there?
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Pixel-Snapper

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Since we moved in to our new place in May, we found out that the courtyard has quite an established grape vine growing in it. Over the last few weeks of nice weather it has started to produce fruit.

What I would like to know it how the hell do I care for it? When we moved in it had grown into the guttering so we basically hacked it back not knowing what it was at the time. I've read some stuff online but it's all in technical terms - pinching back, cutting in, 5 leaves in! no idea.

Would it be able to make me wine to drink and how do I go about doing this?

Here it is up against the wall.



I'll get the name of the vine this afternoon as the tag is still round the bottom.




(duno if this should be a gardening question also)







Edited by Pixel-Snapper on Friday 16th August 10:46

Mobile Chicane

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Friday 16th August 2013
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I doubt the fruit will ripen enough to produce wine from it this year.

Prune it in autumn back to the main branches, and be patient for next year. Vines don't really work trained against walls, so you might want to build some sort of pergola for it to grow up and along.

Pixel-Snapper

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Mobile Chicane said:
I doubt the fruit will ripen enough to produce wine from it this year.
May I ask what makes you say that MC?


Mobile Chicane

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Pixel-Snapper said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I doubt the fruit will ripen enough to produce wine from it this year.
May I ask what makes you say that MC?
I have a vine in a greenhouse, and I doubt that will ripen. The late spring being the cause.

Pixel-Snapper

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Damn it! was kind of hoping to feel the grape between my toes.

sparkythecat

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
I have a vine in a greenhouse, and I doubt that will ripen. The late spring being the cause.
You must have one of those soft southern nancy boy vines.

Up 'ere in t'north, our vines are made of much sterner stuff and neither the weather nor a serious mealy bug infestation have stopped them fruiting. Our vines are well fking 'ard.




Mobile Chicane

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sparkythecat said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I have a vine in a greenhouse, and I doubt that will ripen. The late spring being the cause.
You must have one of those soft southern nancy boy vines.

Up 'ere in t'north, our vines are made of much sterner stuff and neither the weather nor a serious mealy bug infestation have stopped them fruiting. Our vines are well fking 'ard.


That looks awesome. bow

What variety is it?

Mobile Chicane

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Pixel-Snapper said:
Damn it! was kind of hoping to feel the grape between my toes.
If that's a south-facing wall, you might still be lucky.

Prune any leaves which are shading the bunches, prune any non-fruiting branches, and prune any tiddlers of bunches. Ensure the bunches are well-supported, and get plenty of air and light.

However the answer to maximising ripening is to build some sort of structure and tie the fruiting branches to this while they're still young and flexible. If you try and bend them too far now the branches will break.

Pixel-Snapper

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Sparkythecat - thats awesome smile not quite the size of yours yet though ours are like large peas at the moment.

M C - Cool thanks for the tips I will cut it back again this weekend as wasn't sure how much to take off.

Pixel-Snapper

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Friday 16th August 2013
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Few grape pictures.

Name tag.


Fruits.









sparkythecat

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Saturday 17th August 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
That looks awesome. bow

What variety is it?
Can't help you there I'm afraid, the label's bleached white with the sun

jet_noise

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Saturday 17th August 2013
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Dear ps,

established vines are pretty hard to kill so don't be afraid to hack. Even namby pamby southern ones sparky smile. I've never snapped a growing branch that I did not mean to.

As others have said if you want to aid ripening then trim around any bunches to let light/air in.
Give it a good hack as soon as the grapes are gone. I'd leave some of this years longer growth to train onto wires. I've got it in mind that next years fruit grows on this years growth. This years growth is usually green whereas older is brow,

regards,
Jet

Pixel-Snapper

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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Couple of weeks since my last post and there coming on.



A lot more of the bunches have come out since cutting the branches back.

Mobile Chicane

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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Some of those bunches may need supporting, plus there are still a few leaves shading them that you could get rid of. smile

Pixel-Snapper

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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How would I go about supporting them? I.E canes

Mobile Chicane

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Thursday 29th August 2013
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Yup.