Sansaire - new Kickstarter'd sous vide offering
Sansaire - new Kickstarter'd sous vide offering
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Gruffy

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7,212 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I've been longing to get stuck into sous vide for years now, since I first tasted sous vide pigeon. The cost is coming down and the Sous Vide Supreme Demi has been on my "I'll buy one soon" list for a while. It looks like it may be coming down a bit further now.

http://sansaire.com

This thing is offered at $199 plus '$20-$50' delivery to Europe. That works out at about £150. Any thoughts on how this might fare? Anybody have one on order?

F-Stop Junkie

549 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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It looks good I must say. I'm quite tempted by something like this to try out, and it'd be good to use an existing pot rather than buy another item the size of a breadmaker...

Gruffy

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288 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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If it does everything it claims to do then I think it'll be great. I may wait for the second wave of production though, to avoid any phase I gremlins.

Mr Obertshaw

2,187 posts

259 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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This is how you do it properly. The kettle is now swapped for a slow cooker and it maintains temperature within around 0.5 degrees.

Total cost about £20 and a slow cooker!

The sense of danger each time you turn it on also adds to the thrill of the cook!

Mobile Chicane

21,979 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Gruffy said:
I've been longing to get stuck into sous vide for years now, since I first tasted sous vide pigeon. The cost is coming down and the Sous Vide Supreme Demi has been on my "I'll buy one soon" list for a while. It looks like it may be coming down a bit further now.

http://sansaire.com

This thing is offered at $199 plus '$20-$50' delivery to Europe. That works out at about £150. Any thoughts on how this might fare? Anybody have one on order?
That looks awesome. Perhaps some kind PHer might be prepared to bring one back from the US?

What about the voltage though - will it still work on 240V?

F-Stop Junkie

549 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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There's two voltage options, one for US, and one for 240v

Mobile Chicane

21,979 posts

241 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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110 and 220.

peter tdci

2,025 posts

179 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I backed it on Kickstarter ($199 + $20 shipping) - so I've paid about £140 up front.

The bad news is that they have just put shipping back from late November until the end of January to make a design change to the casing. The good news is that they have said that they will reimburse any customs/duty charges backers incur.

Disappointed that it won't be here for Christmas, but looking forward to trying it out!

Gruffy

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7,212 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I was hoping somebody here had taken a punt. Please let us know how you get on with it. Does sound very promising.

Gruffy

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Friday 22nd November 2013
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Fine work, Mr Obertshaw.

Arpa

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202 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I was following the Nomiku version on kickstarter and placed a pre-order but believe they had problems with the 220v version and haven't heard anything recently.

This could be a great alternative although wonder if the addition of the 'bath' and insulation may make something like the Sous-vide supreme better value and more efficient?

RizzoTheRat

28,765 posts

221 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Mr Obertshaw said:


This is how you do it properly. The kettle is now swapped for a slow cooker and it maintains temperature within around 0.5 degrees.

Total cost about £20 and a slow cooker!

The sense of danger each time you turn it on also adds to the thrill of the cook!
I'm particularly liking the mains plug biggrin

Surely this kind of thing is an idea Raspberry Pi project.

Gruffy

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7,212 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Arpa said:
I was following the Nomiku version on kickstarter and placed a pre-order but believe they had problems with the 220v version and haven't heard anything recently.

This could be a great alternative although wonder if the addition of the 'bath' and insulation may make something like the Sous-vide supreme better value and more efficient?
The lack of circulation the Supreme has always niggled. It's probably not a big issue for a home cook?

21TonyK

13,261 posts

238 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Gruffy said:
The lack of circulation the Supreme has always niggled. It's probably not a big issue for a home cook?
Ultimately a stirred bath is the best option but only really noticable when you have a bath packed with stuff for relatively short periods where the natural convection of the water isn't effective.

As for insulation in a domestic environment i wouldnt have thought it would make any difference. At work we have a 30 litre bath that is on all day and night with stuff in it. Thats wrapped up like a hot water cylinder!

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Gruffy said:
The lack of circulation the Supreme has always niggled. It's probably not a big issue for a home cook?
My rig up uses a earthenware slow cooker and maintains a temp that cycles between +/- 1 deg c. which while not "technically ideal" and gives us beautiful results every time, to the point we can't be bothered spending the £300+ a "proper" machine has been up to now. Main downside is only the non-intuitive industrial temperature controller from RS components and the clumsiness of it all meaning mrs avoids using it herself.

On our wedding list at amazon is the "giles and posner" sous vide water bath which are down to £100~, these use a metal insert bath so should be more stable as there's less mass to transmit heat through.

Can't see that lack of circulation in a device this size should be an issue- it's not like you're going to get hot and cold spots in a body of water 10" across is it?

satans worm

2,464 posts

246 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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hairyben said:
On our wedding list at amazon is the "giles and posner" sous vide water bath which are down to £100~, these use a metal insert bath so should be more stable as there's less mass to transmit heat through.
thats a good price, i mean how does an insulated pot, a low volt heating element, a timer and an accurate temperature gauge cost exactly?
i just cant get my head around why they cost so much, they dont seem to have much new tech, its all pretty much basic , as far as i can see?
My issue with that kick starter one is that the container will not have a lid to stop evaporation (although may not be too much of an issue i guess) or to help keep the heat in so it will be working all the time.
Its also pricy still for what it does, imo

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

247 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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You'll need a time machine to buy this bit of kit - Anticipated release date Jan 2014

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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satans worm said:
hairyben said:
On our wedding list at amazon is the "giles and posner" sous vide water bath which are down to £100~, these use a metal insert bath so should be more stable as there's less mass to transmit heat through.
thats a good price, i mean how does an insulated pot, a low volt heating element, a timer and an accurate temperature gauge cost exactly?
i just cant get my head around why they cost so much, they dont seem to have much new tech, its all pretty much basic , as far as i can see?
My issue with that kick starter one is that the container will not have a lid to stop evaporation (although may not be too much of an issue i guess) or to help keep the heat in so it will be working all the time.
Its also pricy still for what it does, imo
Economies of scale, essentially it's only a slow cooker (£20) with a clever thermometer instead of a switch (£20) but as interest has increased someones obviously took the plunge and opened a production line in china, there's several different "brands" being retailed at the mo that are all identical to this model

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Update for those interested, we have used the G&P several times now for our most-sous-vided favourite (stuffed chicken breast) and it's superb- probably better than my already superb slow cooker contraption which did tend to cycle through about 2deg, so I can only presume the G&P is keeping the temp more accurate despite lack of circulation.

peter tdci

2,025 posts

179 months

Saturday 4th January 2014
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peter tdci said:
I backed it on Kickstarter ($199 + $20 shipping) - so I've paid about £140 up front.

The bad news is that they have just put shipping back from late November until the end of January to make a design change to the casing. The good news is that they have said that they will reimburse any customs/duty charges backers incur.

Disappointed that it won't be here for Christmas, but looking forward to trying it out!
Update from Sansaire - manufacturing has begun and shipping is 'on-track to begin by January 30th'. What emerged after the initial news of the delay was that, at around the same time, Sansaire were effectively being sued for patent infringements by Polyscience. It isn't clear whether the delay in manufacturing was caused by this or the reasons stated by Sansaire back in November.

However, things seem to have been resolved regarding the lawsuit - and a container of the circulators is being shipped directly to the UK, which will hopefully mean that any import/VAT charges will have been covered before onward shipping to end users within the EU.

Now, any recommendations for a vacuum sealer?