Serving Sizes - regulation?
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torqueofthedevil

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2,088 posts

206 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Who dictates what a serving size is when food manufactures display nutritional info on their packaging?

Considering they have to go to great lengths having food tested in labs to display accurate nutritional info, it see strange then that they are allowed to use such unrealistic serving sizes.

Most pizzas show a serving size of a quarter. Most people I know eat a whole pizza as a serving (these are just average frozen pizzas - maybe 14''? The calories, fat, saturates at first glance look half acceptable but multiply by four and some are above your recommended daily allowance.

Another one was a little pot of seeds - 60g packet. Serving size 25g. It's bearly a handful! And cakes are quite often 1/14th!

On a seperate note, I know drinks in pubs will soon have to display calorie content - thinking about it now, I can't believe it's taken this long for that too happen.

Cotty

42,213 posts

313 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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swerni said:
Do you not think a large part of the problem is what people deem an acceptable portion?
Surely its down to the individual to decide what is acceptable. One person might be quite content with what is deemed an individual portion, another may require more to satisfy their hunger.

torqueofthedevil

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2,088 posts

206 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Yes I agree with you that people should be healthier. But remember a lot of people won't even care what they eat so won't even look at the nutritional info.

I'm referring more to people who are actually trying to make a change and be healthier, who are looking at this sort of info. It's very easy to be misled - u pick up a pizza box, glance at the info and see a range of numbers which appear to be within a health(ish) range because u miss the small print saying its per 1/4 of a pizza.

I think most people would agree that if you are going to have a pizza, you are going to eat it all (we aren't talking huge pizzas here).


vescaegg

30,078 posts

196 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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torqueofthedevil said:
Yes I agree with you that people should be healthier. But remember a lot of people won't even care what they eat so won't even look at the nutritional info.

I'm referring more to people who are actually trying to make a change and be healthier, who are looking at this sort of info. It's very easy to be misled - u pick up a pizza box, glance at the info and see a range of numbers which appear to be within a health(ish) range because u miss the small print saying its per 1/4 of a pizza.

I think most people would agree that if you are going to have a pizza, you are going to eat it all (we aren't talking huge pizzas here).
So we should change the information on packaging because of a few fking morons who can't read properly?

No. No we shouldn't.

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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torqueofthedevil said:
Yes I agree with you that people should be healthier. But remember a lot of people won't even care what they eat so won't even look at the nutritional info.

I'm referring more to people who are actually trying to make a change and be healthier, who are looking at this sort of info. It's very easy to be misled - u pick up a pizza box, glance at the info and see a range of numbers which appear to be within a health(ish) range because u miss the small print saying its per 1/4 of a pizza.

I think most people would agree that if you are going to have a pizza, you are going to eat it all (we aren't talking huge pizzas here).
to be fair, if you're that concerned with health you'd not be going near frozen pizza.

pizza base+passanta+bits and bobs, takes 5 mins, not stuffed full of salt and sugar and chemicals

bitchstewie

67,225 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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I'd assumed it was simply so you could compare 2 products easily.

Looking at the "nutritional info per pizza" if pizza A is 500g and pizza B is 450g isn't the quickest to compare whilst info per 100g means everything is level.

It's like with pricing, I find it quite useful to see if I'm paying more per 100g depending on how I buy a product.

Cotty

42,213 posts

313 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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swerni said:

How come previous generations weren't as fat and yes had less information?
Perhaps because people mainly had to cook their own food from scratch. McDonalds didn't open their first restaurant in the UK until 1974. Sure there were fish and chip shops and other fast food venders but not at todays levels. If I want a curry tonight I don't even have to go and get it. A few clicks on a web site and it gets delivered to my door, that didn't exist 30/40 years ago.

torqueofthedevil

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2,088 posts

206 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Yes per 100g is worthwhile because it allows a comparison.

What isn't clear is the coloured 'tabs' which show calories / fat / carbs etc as you expect this to be per proper portion size.

I don't deny a frozen pizza is unhealthy I'm just using it as an example and a lot of people even healthy ones will eat the odd pizza.

With regards to all packaging being changed because people can't read, I just think that it's intentionally misleading and quite obviously so. Seems strange that they get away with it.

bitchstewie

67,225 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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IIRC they did the coloured thing simply because people were too lazy to read so it was considered better than nothing.

Cotty

42,213 posts

313 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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swerni said:
Pizza's are massively fattening, if you're going to be healthy don't eat one.
You don't need a label to tell you that.
Everything in moderation. A pizza once or twice a month if fine if you balance that with fruit, veg and generally eating healthy.

swerni said:
Cotty people can eat want the want, but the majority of individuals are overweight, so their judgement is clearly impared
Most peoele who eat what you do aren't scrawny.
Its a balance. Im quite happy with a bowl of soup, large salad, sandwich etc at work and if I want a blow out at the weekend its fine. But I don't eat large all the time and even if I do there is a lot of veg and lean meat there.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

229 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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torqueofthedevil said:
Yes per 100g is worthwhile because it allows a comparison.
As a type 1 diabetic that has to take the correct amount on insulin for all the carbs consumed I would say that this is essential.

It's not all about lazy fat fkers

jimothy

5,151 posts

266 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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NoNeed said:
As a type 1 diabetic that has to take the correct amount on insulin for all the carbs consumed I would say that this is essential.

It's not all about lazy fat fkers
Yup. I hate the mandatory 'per 100g' when the product is a 250ml bottle of lassi. No idea how much insulin to take.

Jasandjules

72,560 posts

258 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Yes, it amuses me when I get a cake (healthy eater of the week) and it says "serves 6".. I eat 1/3 of it as a portion and even then feel a little hard done by......

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Serving sizes are often unrealistic.

I ahve seen 'one pot' products which are clearly designed to be eaten by one person in one sitting (chilled) yet the serving size is for half the pot. These are lunchtime snacks that you buy and eat on the day.

The advantage to making servings so small is that it means they can make the product look healthier than it probably is taking into account average eating habits.

That is why the mandatory per 100g is good.

Edited by Mojooo on Sunday 18th January 15:03

Rawwr

22,722 posts

263 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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They should have warnings like cigarette packets...


Rawwr

22,722 posts

263 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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swerni said:
But it would stress out the fatties.
Then they'd start comfort eating.....
Does the same happen with cigarettes? Do people see those government warnings and smoke 60 woodbines to cheer themselves up?

Hoofy

79,982 posts

311 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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I know what you mean. It's idiotic. Cereals... only 1 calorie per serving. Each serving 1g.

red_slr

20,641 posts

218 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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What irritates me more is you buy a pizza in a box that's say 20cm x 20cm. You can see the pizza through the window on the box.

You get hit home and find a 15x15cm pizza inside with a little cardboard insert to keep it in one corner near the window...

98elise

32,483 posts

190 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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Its not hard.

If its for 1/4 of a pizza and you eat a whole pizza, then times it by 4. If they marked it according to the whole packet then you would have to divide it (but all the markings would be red). Regardless of how they mark it, the whole pizza will have the same mount of lard in it!

Face it, peole eat too much crap, and moaning about the recommended portion size isn't going to make you thin.



Hoofy

79,982 posts

311 months

Sunday 18th January 2015
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MATH???