Chicken on the bone

[Rick101]

Just catching up on the KFC program on iplayer. Comment from a young lass about not liking chicken on the bone as it's 'like an animal'.

Not got much tolerance for fussy eaters anyway but I've always found that particularly suspect. Especially men that say it. I simply can't look at them the same way again. It's almost as though they are halfway vegan. I don't trust them. It's just not right, man up and eat off the bone!

Just me?

[mrsshpub]

Surely conventional wisdom is that meat cooked on the bone tastes better.

[Fishtigua]

Kids today have no concept of where food comes from. My Mum, an ex-teacher, used to bring some of her kids out to our farm. They were shocked when we explained where eggs, milk or beef came from.

No, milk doesn't grow on trees.

[craigjm]

I eat meat off the bone like KFC but i really dislike it when meat in a curry is on the bone because its messy to eat.

Far too many people are detached from what food is these days and see it as a lump of flesh in a plastic box. Why we don't call it pig and cow rather than pork and beef is beyond me that just makes it even more detached. Mind you most of us are at least a bit fussy how many people would be happy eating pigs ears and chicken feet like the chinese do? at least then they are eating the whole animal

[Rick101]

I can understand that, in a curry it can be a challenge.

Its the grown men that shriek and have an episode that they can't dig in the bargain bucket because it's chicken on the bone.
Go hungry then ya soft fk.

[mrsshpub]

craigjm said:

…...Why we don't call it pig and cow rather than pork and beef is beyond me that just makes it even more detached...…..

After the Norman conquest, the upper classes spoke French — so they called pig meat 'porc' & cow meat 'boeuf'. When these meats became more affordable to the lower classes, the Anglicised versions of these names stuck.

I totally agree with your comment about the use of these terms making us unnecessarily detached from what we're eating — but after almost 1,000 years of use, it's unlikely to change.

[craigjm]

mrsshpub said:

After the Norman conquest, the upper classes spoke French — so they called pig meat 'porc' & cow meat 'boeuf'. When these meats became more affordable to the lower classes, the Anglicised versions of these names stuck.

I totally agree with your comment about the use of these terms making us unnecessarily detached from what we're eating — but after almost 1,000 years of use, it's unlikely to change.

thats interesting i never knew that thanks!

[ShiningWit]

craigjm said:

mrsshpub said:

After the Norman conquest, the upper classes spoke French — so they called pig meat 'porc' & cow meat 'boeuf'. When these meats became more affordable to the lower classes, the Anglicised versions of these names stuck.

I totally agree with your comment about the use of these terms making us unnecessarily detached from what we're eating — but after almost 1,000 years of use, it's unlikely to change.

thats interesting i never knew that thanks!

There was something like that on the TV the other night, I think they said Pork was French, but pig was English, similar for mutton, lamb and sheep.
Always mystifies me when the local curry house calls sheep 'meat'.

[Philplop]

craigjm said:

how many people would be happy eating pigs ears and chicken feet like the chinese do?

Have you tried chicken feet? They're flipping horrible. It's only really the skin that is edible. Although my Thai mate reckons if you boil them long enough you can eat the bones too. But his favourite part is the arse, so I don't think he's particularly fussy.

[craigjm]

Philplop said:

Have you tried chicken feet? They're flipping horrible. It's only really the skin that is edible. Although my Thai mate reckons if you boil them long enough you can eat the bones too. But his favourite part is the arse, so I don't think he's particularly fussy.

yeah I'm not the biggest fan of chicken feet. Pigs ears are ok though

[carl_w]

anonymous said:

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Isn't "meat" a catch-all term for Lamb/Mutton/Goat in India?

[bint]

No fear of our 2yr old son not knowing where meat comes from, he sees a pig, oinks, and then shouts BACON!!

[wijit]

For hand held food I prefer off the bone, but that's because I'm a lazy eater. The taste is far, far better on the bone.
Having worked in an abattoir I like to think I served my time so far as awareness goes, and I told my son all about it. He's a good meat eater (on or off!).

[redtwin]

The only part of the chicken I like are the wings and the breast, oh, and the oyster, but that's not a "part". I am happy to eat either off the bone (very proud of my wing technique), but have to admit I prefer breast off the bone as it's just easier to cook and eat.

Feet, necks and backs etc I don't have any time for, but I have to say that one of the tastiest chicken dishes I have ever tried was a poverty chicken back "stew" a neighbour made.

[DG3]

I love chickens feet in a black bean sauce if cooked well a must for Dim Sum. As for origin, where I live, most seafood and poultry is still alive at the point of purchase, and either dispatched by the vendor or whacked at home.

[Burwood]

In china once, restaurant menu had an English translation. A very poor one. 'Pig hands with rice' trotters I assume

[Pferdestarke]

Real food is a problem to many adults and children in this country and abroad. Many don't possess the knowledge or dexterity to enable the thorough stripping of a chicken carcass as they are accustomed to having it processed and shaped in to hand held nuggets or burgers.

It's an absolute tragedy that many parents are unconsciously incompetent when it comes to educating their children about food.

My son, who is now 15 months - eats what we eat where possible and growing up will help in the prep of food in the kitchen whether it be veg or meat. He has a broader palate now than his two 20-something Aunties who fall in to the boneless box brigade.

[Pferdestarke]

Real food is a problem to many adults and children in this country and abroad. Many don't possess the knowledge or dexterity to enable the thorough stripping of a chicken carcass as they are accustomed to having it processed and shaped in to hand held nuggets or burgers.

It's an absolute tragedy that many parents are unconsciously incompetent when it comes to educating their children about food.

My son, who is now 15 months - eats what we eat where possible and growing up will help in the prep of food in the kitchen whether it be veg or meat. He has a broader palate now than his two 20-something Aunties who fall in to the boneless box brigade.