Beef Bourguignon - Advice/Tips?
Beef Bourguignon - Advice/Tips?
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BRISTOL86

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1,097 posts

131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Hi Folks

I'm not a hugely experienced cook but am cooking for 6 people (incl me) on Sat which is unusual for me, and I want it to go well!

I'm planning on a beef bourguignon - but my main concern is that the sauce will be thin and soup-like whereas I'd like to make sure it's reasonably thick and luxurious.

I was planning on loosely following this recipe which serves 4 and not sure how to adjust the quantities of the liquids to make sure I end up with something vaguely of the right consistency.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2011/feb/0...

One of our guests is particularly fussy so the better prepared I am, the better!

I was planning on chucking it in the oven rather than doing it stove top - recipe reckons 2hrs at 140 - sound about right?

All tips gratefully received smile

Cheers

marshalla

15,902 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Long, slow cooking, plenty of flour, use a cut of beef with plenty of connective tissue (i.e NOT a prime cut - note the comment about a pig's trotter) and add some veg. which will break down to thicken the sauce even more (e.g. leeks). If the sauce still seems thin, reduce it on the stovetop.


Edited by marshalla on Thursday 31st December 11:07

BRISTOL86

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1,097 posts

131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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marshalla said:
Long, slow cooking, plenty of flour, use a cut of beef with plenty of connective tissue (i.e NOT a prime cut) and add some veg. which will break down to thicken the sauce even more (e.g. leeks). If the sauce still seems thin, reduce it on the stovetop.
When you say plenty of flour - just stirred into the sauce prior to going in the oven? Or added later? Bit of a newbie when it comes to this kind of cooking!

marshalla

15,902 posts

227 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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BRISTOL86 said:
When you say plenty of flour - just stirred into the sauce prior to going in the oven? Or added later? Bit of a newbie when it comes to this kind of cooking!
When you flour the meat prior to cooking - get it well coated and don't be afraid to put any that doesn't stick into the pan right at the start as well.

BRISTOL86

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131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Grand, thanks.

Gaz3376

131 posts

135 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Pickled onions make a good addition to this dish (chefs trick).

BRISTOL86

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131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Gaz3376 said:
Pickled onions make a good addition to this dish (chefs trick).
I like the idea of using small, whole onions. But are they not horribly acidic if using the pickled kind?

jep

1,183 posts

235 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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I would simply double the amounts and cook it the night before. That way you and your other half can have some first to ensure you're happy with it, and it will always improve on being left overnight and cooked again the night of the party. An added bonus is that you can also spend the day with your guests and not in the kitchen!

If you can't get hold of pigs trotters, some oxtail would also give extra flavour and thickness to the dish. I did a similar dish not so long ago and baked a ruck of those small part-baked bread rolls to serve alongside as they came out the oven - not especially healthy when slathered with butter, but bloody lovely nonetheless!

TomOSmith

165 posts

289 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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I drop some suet dumplings into the mix to thicken the sauce (and provide tasty dumplings).

Gaz3376

131 posts

135 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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BRISTOL86 said:
Gaz3376 said:
Pickled onions make a good addition to this dish (chefs trick).
I like the idea of using small, whole onions. But are they not horribly acidic if using the pickled kind?
no the vinegar taste soon disperses, if worried poach them seperately and test before adding to the stew.

BRISTOL86

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131 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Gaz3376 said:
no the vinegar taste soon disperses, if worried poach them seperately and test before adding to the stew.
Thanks. I actually just discovered a bag of small shallots that will otherwise be wasted so will probably use them as they're small enough to leave whole.

PositronicRay

28,777 posts

209 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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This is mine, perfect every time. smile

Serves 3-4 depending on appetite, serve with green beans and new (or mash) potato

500g Stewing Beef
100g Lardons
250g button mushrooms
250g shallots
1 Large onion
1 Large carrot
1 Bottle wine
1 stock cube
1 Bouquet Garni (If you can only get the things that look like teabags bung a couple in)
2 Bay leaves (optional)
Pepper
Table spoon of Tomato puree
Knob butter
Sunflower or olive oil

No need for additional stock, flour or salt (stock cubes are quite salty so are lardons)

Soak shallots in boiling water

Chop onion and fry in butter and a little oil, with lardons and stewing beef, until they've taken on a little colour.
Add bottle of wine
Slice carrot and add, with stock cube, tomato puree, bay leaf, bouquet garni, couple of twists of pepper.
Bring to boil cover then turn down heat to simmer for 1 1/2 hrs.

When the shallots are cool enough to handle slip the skins off.

After 1 1/2 hours check the seasoning, add shallots and mushrooms cover and simmer for another hour.
Check seasoning and meat is tender.

While potatoes and beans are cooking, uncover and reduce the stock. At this point you will have a rich thin gravy, so reduce until it's the consistency to suit.

Some times I cook it a day in advance. Then just reduce it prior to serving.

The other option is adding some of those big flat field mushrooms, just stick them on top, one for each person.



Steve Benson

298 posts

180 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Shin beef is the best in my opinion, try to leave a lot of the connective tissue intact, it will help the stew.

I use this recipe and it always turns out well.
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/5032/beef-bourg...

ruff'n'smov

1,092 posts

175 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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Chuck steak, is seriously the best to go for, otherwise skirt leg or flank. Tell your butcher he'll get you a good piece 200g pp is a good healthy portion, and the dumplings suggestion is ace.

D1ngd0ng

1,014 posts

191 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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For a thick stock make with powdered gelatine. Decent tip I learnt this year.

Bradgate

3,176 posts

173 months

Thursday 31st December 2015
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I like the sound of Nigel's recipe and method. A cast iron casserole is the ideal cooking pot, and let it simmer low & slow. Marinating the meat in the wine & herbs overnight and coking the dish the day before you plan to eat it are excellent tips, if you have time.

If the sauce is too watery when the meat is cooked, just remove the meat with a slotted spoon and set aside, then boil the sauce with the lid off until it reduces down to the desired consistency & flavour. Then replace the meat, check the seasoning and enjoy.

You can get a bit creative with the mash, too. Carrot & swede, Butternut squash, potato & parsnip with grain mustard etc etc.

Bon appetit!

Mobile Chicane

21,886 posts

238 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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I use goose or duck fat for the browning, and a decent-ish Burgundy. It has to be Burgundy - no other wine will do.

majordad

3,630 posts

223 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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Jamie Oliver in recent recipies says you can get away with not browning the meat, less mess too. I use whatever red wine I have, when in France I buy Red in Litre Cartons which does well. Had it last night !

jonlk

215 posts

196 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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tomw2000

2,508 posts

221 months

Friday 1st January 2016
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This Delia one is my winter dinner party season signature dish smile

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/main-ingredient...

I sometimes add a little Worcester sauce too. It's not as laborious as the recipe suggests - well worth the effort.