Bean to cup Vs Nespresso
Discussion
Im a huge fan of the Nespresso system for the ease of use, the absolute repeatability of quality from cup to cup and the taste.
However, it would appear we are now spending nigh on £50 a month on coffee - which isnt the real issue.
The real issue is that that doesnt actually last a month, and we end having to drink gagging instant which I now dislike quite a lot.
Considering a bean to cup, but not sure how good they really are or just how much faff.
Was looking at the Aeropress, but it looks like you need scientific scales and measure to make a repeatable cup of coffee.
I mainly drink what I think maybe a "flat white" but is actually a Nespresso with a small splash of milk.
Occasionally make Capucinno as we the aerocinno which is great.
So, carry on with capsules or move on ?
However, it would appear we are now spending nigh on £50 a month on coffee - which isnt the real issue.
The real issue is that that doesnt actually last a month, and we end having to drink gagging instant which I now dislike quite a lot.
Considering a bean to cup, but not sure how good they really are or just how much faff.
Was looking at the Aeropress, but it looks like you need scientific scales and measure to make a repeatable cup of coffee.
I mainly drink what I think maybe a "flat white" but is actually a Nespresso with a small splash of milk.
Occasionally make Capucinno as we the aerocinno which is great.
So, carry on with capsules or move on ?
Move on. I took the plunge last year after making do with various capsule machines. I got the Jura impressa F8. Does a heap of different coffees but in the main I just go for a black with a dash of milk. The effort isn't more than the capsules really, just empty the compressed grounds and drop tray when it tells you and also add water. To clean just pop in a tablet and let the cycle run. Easy!
The Delonghi (Magnifica) seem to get a few recommendations on here (I've had one since 2011). When I bought mine, I bought pretty much the top of the range but it was only after buying and using and researching further that they were all the same internals and it was just the buttons on the outside that differed (manual buttons vs a 'digital' display) so I was probably hoodwinked by the 'shiny' finish.
Oh and a link http://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/coff...
And if you drink a lot of coffee (and have access to a Booker Cash and Carry) I quite like their catering beans - Lichfield Italian Espresso 1Kg - they work out at about £6 per kilo or thereabouts! Coffee snobs will tell you they are not fresh etc etc but I've tried many a different supplier and even tried roasting my own. I also use (reasonably regularly) an Aeropress with these beans.
Oh and a link http://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/coff...
And if you drink a lot of coffee (and have access to a Booker Cash and Carry) I quite like their catering beans - Lichfield Italian Espresso 1Kg - they work out at about £6 per kilo or thereabouts! Coffee snobs will tell you they are not fresh etc etc but I've tried many a different supplier and even tried roasting my own. I also use (reasonably regularly) an Aeropress with these beans.
Edited by S6PNJ on Saturday 8th April 21:30
Turn7 said:
Im a huge fan of the Nespresso system for the ease of use, the absolute repeatability of quality from cup to cup and the taste.
However, it would appear we are now spending nigh on £50 a month on coffee - which isnt the real issue.
The real issue is that that doesnt actually last a month, and we end having to drink gagging instant which I now dislike quite a lot.
Considering a bean to cup, but not sure how good they really are or just how much faff.
Was looking at the Aeropress, but it looks like you need scientific scales and measure to make a repeatable cup of coffee.
Absolutely not! However, it would appear we are now spending nigh on £50 a month on coffee - which isnt the real issue.
The real issue is that that doesnt actually last a month, and we end having to drink gagging instant which I now dislike quite a lot.
Considering a bean to cup, but not sure how good they really are or just how much faff.
Was looking at the Aeropress, but it looks like you need scientific scales and measure to make a repeatable cup of coffee.
See my 'secret of a good coffee' thread.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I've been using an AeroPress for a little over a week and managing excellent, repeatable coffee every time just using the scoop that comes with it and keeping an eye on water levels when I fill it. Admittedly, it's been a long time since I ground my own beans but after using an Aeropress (with four different speciality varieties of coffee) I see no need for further experimentation or expenditure.
Another ESAM user. Mine's a 04.110.S which I think is equivalent to a 4200.S. It cost £200 at the time. In use every day for 2-3 doubles. Mine's been in use since 2014 and never skipped a beat. All knobs & buttons still work as they should. We had a couple of pod machines in the past and stopped using them due to the cost and level of packaging waste.
You also need to factor in the cost of running some descaler through it every few months.
It's one of those items that should things go wrong, I'd not hesitate to replace with whatever is the manufacturer equivalent.
You get used to the quality of decent coffee though. Coffee from the chain coffee shops doesn't taste as good, and I find I go through withdrawal when on holiday (Spanish hotel coffee is pretty rank).
You also need to factor in the cost of running some descaler through it every few months.
It's one of those items that should things go wrong, I'd not hesitate to replace with whatever is the manufacturer equivalent.
You get used to the quality of decent coffee though. Coffee from the chain coffee shops doesn't taste as good, and I find I go through withdrawal when on holiday (Spanish hotel coffee is pretty rank).
I started out the other way around - with a Jura bean to cup machine. It was TOTALLY useless. I think it went away to be repaired twice and never really worked satisfactorily. It was not cheap, and was a total let down.
I then switched to Nespresso, and don't think I'd move away. Yes, I'm now on my 3rd Nespresso machine (in about 10 years), but each of them has performed flawlessly until they wore out. The Nespresso machine repair service is also excellent - the send their own courier to collect your machine, and leave you a loan in its place.
Was I too early with my venture into bean-to-cup territory (over 10 years ago)? Are the machines now really that reliable? Or did I irreparably damage my machine by using beans from Starbucks? Apparently these are roasted with sugar which gives them a hard glaze - no idea if that's true or not.
I then switched to Nespresso, and don't think I'd move away. Yes, I'm now on my 3rd Nespresso machine (in about 10 years), but each of them has performed flawlessly until they wore out. The Nespresso machine repair service is also excellent - the send their own courier to collect your machine, and leave you a loan in its place.
Was I too early with my venture into bean-to-cup territory (over 10 years ago)? Are the machines now really that reliable? Or did I irreparably damage my machine by using beans from Starbucks? Apparently these are roasted with sugar which gives them a hard glaze - no idea if that's true or not.
Edited by omniflow on Monday 10th April 10:52
We've got a Jura Bean to Cup which we've had for eight years now....have had to get it repaird once in that time. it's been a great purchase....I don't think it's particularly cheap to run because of buying cleaning tablets and filters etc but it makes fantastic coffee and because it has a frother we can make great lattes.
One of the best things we've bought...gets used four or five times a day every day. Not cheap but we'd be lost without it!
One of the best things we've bought...gets used four or five times a day every day. Not cheap but we'd be lost without it!
johnwilliams77 said:
battered said:
There is no excuse for instant. A cafetiere or a cone and filter costs nothing and makes good coffee in no more time.
I'd also say that if you have got to £50 a month then B to C is better.
Wrong - instant is definitely quickerI'd also say that if you have got to £50 a month then B to C is better.
£50 a month??
Given that the average pod is 30p when you buy from the Nespresso store (and cheaper if you buy non-original), that means you're drinking around 170 cups of coffee a month! If that's between two of you, then I think you should consider scaling back from ~3 shots a day, every day of the week...
Nespresso has never been the cheapest way to drink coffee. I love that it produces consistent, acceptable coffee (I drink espresso) with almost zero effort. I only make one cup a day at home (first thing), and might make a cafetiere on a weekend morning - so my consumption is tiny compared with yours, to the extent that I don't notice the expense.
If you're a high volume consumer who is price-sensitive, then you should probably move to a different format.
Given that the average pod is 30p when you buy from the Nespresso store (and cheaper if you buy non-original), that means you're drinking around 170 cups of coffee a month! If that's between two of you, then I think you should consider scaling back from ~3 shots a day, every day of the week...
Nespresso has never been the cheapest way to drink coffee. I love that it produces consistent, acceptable coffee (I drink espresso) with almost zero effort. I only make one cup a day at home (first thing), and might make a cafetiere on a weekend morning - so my consumption is tiny compared with yours, to the extent that I don't notice the expense.
If you're a high volume consumer who is price-sensitive, then you should probably move to a different format.
Edited by C70R on Monday 10th April 15:41
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