Freezing cray fish
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PositronicRay

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28,770 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th July 2017
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Mrs PR likes to buy crayfish from the local supermarket, often they've run out. The packet say's do not freeze, is there a reason for this? Could it be they've been previously frozen? Are we going to die from botulism or something nasty if we try?

21TonyK

13,124 posts

235 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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You probably won't die but you are quite right to mention botulism. Its not the bacteria so much as the toxins they produce you need to be concerned with.

Chances are they have been frozen and defrosted for sale. You would hope that in a commercially produced product that refreezing and defrosting again would be safe(ish). There was an article on TV last week about refreezing products and most are fine but shellfish is one I would definitely not risk. Plus the crayfish will suffer in texture and be pretty mushy.

Mobile Chicane

21,884 posts

238 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Catch your own!

Many UK watercourses are teeming with them. You'll need a licence (free from the Environment Agency) plus an approved trap, but that's it.

I got mine here:

https://www.solwayfeeders.com/vermin-control/crayf...

ChrisnChris

1,424 posts

248 months

Friday 14th July 2017
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Mobile Chicane said:
Catch your own!

Many UK watercourses are teeming with them.
Indeed biggrinthumbup



PositronicRay

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Friday 14th July 2017
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Catching sounds good, no streams in my garden though, guessing you'd have to speak to the landowner.

Where do you catch yours?

Melman Giraffe

6,794 posts

244 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Mrs PR likes to buy crayfish from the local supermarket, often they've run out. The packet say's do not freeze, is there a reason for this? Could it be they've been previously frozen? Are we going to die from botulism or something nasty if we try?
I might be because they have already been frozen

craigjm

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226 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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It will definitely be because they have already been frozen and defrosted. You should never re-freeze something in the same state sonifbyiu want to freeze them cook them first and that will be fine.

PositronicRay

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Monday 17th July 2017
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craigjm said:
It will definitely be because they have already been frozen and defrosted. You should never re-freeze something in the same state sonifbyiu want to freeze them cook them first and that will be fine.
I love new worms wink

They're (crayfish tails) purchased pre cooked in little packets, nice to bung on some linguine with a tin of crab meat, squeeze of lime, some chilli and garlic.

Great for an easy midweek meal, we can't always guarantee supply so sometimes use frozen prawns, never seen frozen crayfish tails to keep in.



craigjm

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226 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Stupid autocorrect haha

Oh they are already cooked when sold right in which case definitely don't freeze them then as they have probably been frozen twice. Once when raw and then after cooking until sale

Melman Giraffe

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244 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Catching sounds good, no streams in my garden though, guessing you'd have to speak to the landowner.

Where do you catch yours?
need to purge them first before eating

Mobile Chicane

21,884 posts

238 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Catching sounds good, no streams in my garden though, guessing you'd have to speak to the landowner.

Where do you catch yours?
I catch mine in the River Mole, Surrey, but American signal crayfish are present in pretty much every watercourse in the South-East.

If you're anywhere near the Grand Union Canal that could be worth a try. I'm sure they've made their way up to that by now.


PositronicRay

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Monday 17th July 2017
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Mobile Chicane said:
I catch mine in the River Mole, Surrey, but American signal crayfish are present in pretty much every watercourse in the South-East.

If you're anywhere near the Grand Union Canal that could be worth a try. I'm sure they've made their way up to that by now.
The Stratford upon Avon canal runs close by, not sure I'd want to eat anything from it though. yuck Not as bad as the french canals, their boats don't have septic tanks. yikes

I might try the Avon. Do you just need a fishermans license? And how long do leave your traps in for?


Edited by PositronicRay on Monday 17th July 14:07

soad

34,440 posts

202 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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PositronicRay said:
Do you just need a fishermans license?
No, as already mentioned.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/permission-to-trap-cra...
http://foragedfoods.co.uk/how-to-catch-signal-cray...

nitrodave

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164 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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soad said:
What if I own the land the river passes through?

Mobile Chicane

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238 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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nitrodave said:
soad said:
What if I own the land the river passes through?
You need a licence to trap crayfish anywhere (free from the Environment Agency) irrespective of whether or not you own the land.

You need to state the exact location of trapping so the EA can determine if you are trapping in an area where native white clawed crayfish are also present. You won't get a licence if they are.


PositronicRay

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Tuesday 18th July 2017
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If I had a stream at the end of of my garden maybe I'd have a go, as I haven't it seems a right faff for one ingredient of a mid week supper.

Had a peer in finham brook today (of the original Italian Job fame) couldn't see a living thing. irked