Should a burger contain onions?
Discussion
When going out to lunch with my wife I usually have the burger and chips, an option found at most pubs that do food. Last Saturday we tried somewhere new and, having read the description in the menu I asked not to have the onion rings. Food arrived in good time and looked great but I discovered that the burger had been made with minced beef (as it should be, of course) and a good helping of onions (as it should not be, IMO).
I've eaten burgers in many establishments over the last few years and none of them have contained onions, so hadn't thought to ask first. I'm not allergic to the things but I don't like them and they don't like me.
I've eaten burgers in many establishments over the last few years and none of them have contained onions, so hadn't thought to ask first. I'm not allergic to the things but I don't like them and they don't like me.
singlecoil said:
I've eaten burgers in many establishments over the last few years and none of them have contained onions, so hadn't thought to ask first. I'm not allergic to the things but I don't like them and they don't like me.
None of them......... Really?I find that just about impossible to believe tbh. I`m actually struggling to think of any i`ve had that don`t contain it in the Pattie itself.
At the very least I`d have thought flavouring would include Onion powder, especially pubs & the supposedly `upmarket` places like GBK.
Looking at named Chefs, most seem to add onions, the exception from the odd few I Googled was James Martin.
Jim AK said:
None of them......... Really?
I find that just about impossible to believe tbh. I`m actually struggling to think of any i`ve had that don`t contain it in the Pattie itself.
At the very least I`d have thought flavouring would include Onion powder, especially pubs & the supposedly `upmarket` places like GBK.
Looking at named Chefs, most seem to add onions, the exception from the odd few I Googled was James Martin.
Yes, really.I find that just about impossible to believe tbh. I`m actually struggling to think of any i`ve had that don`t contain it in the Pattie itself.
At the very least I`d have thought flavouring would include Onion powder, especially pubs & the supposedly `upmarket` places like GBK.
Looking at named Chefs, most seem to add onions, the exception from the odd few I Googled was James Martin.
The GBK burgers that we've bought at Waitrose don't have onions. Nor do any of their other burgers.
Most tv chefs add onions (and in the case of Delia Smith, garlic as well) to everything that isn't an actual sweet course.
In the patty my preference would be no onions - although saying that a little grated onion can add a bit of interest to home made patties although you're moving away from 'burger' and more towards a beef kofte or shami kebab type creation. As a topping then a little diced, caramelised or crispy onion can bring an extra dimension to proceedings.
I do love a very simple, classic burger - just mustard, ketchup and gherkin - but I also like more interesting creations. After my recent trip to NZ I found myself adding stuff like pineapple and pickled beetroot with slices of pancetta and smoked cheese.
I do love a very simple, classic burger - just mustard, ketchup and gherkin - but I also like more interesting creations. After my recent trip to NZ I found myself adding stuff like pineapple and pickled beetroot with slices of pancetta and smoked cheese.
Halmyre said:
Even finely chopped onion isn't going to cook in the few minutes it takes to fry a burger. I have tried adding some cooked and caramelised onion to the burger mix, but generally it's just some fresh ground pepper and a sprinkle of sea salt crystals.
where I've seen pro-chefs add onions they cook them first. Then mix them in after they have cooled. If you are using really good quality beef - like, some proper ethically reared Angus or Devon Red or whatever, that has been lovingly dry aged before mincing three different cuts of meat together for exactly the right combination of flavour and texture etc - then are grilling on a perfectly seasoned grill at exactly the right temperature... adding onion to the meat is verging on disrespectful. Can see why it might be a good idea if using Tesco Value mince or similar but if the point of the burger is to showcase the quality of the beef then onion shouldn't come anywhere near it.
When I make them at home I sometimes put powered union in with some salt and pepper seasoning.
I don't think it is grounds for complaint, but good customer service should have pointed it out, after you had specifically declined the onion rings. Not sure why you are so against them, they are hardly offensive.
I don't think it is grounds for complaint, but good customer service should have pointed it out, after you had specifically declined the onion rings. Not sure why you are so against them, they are hardly offensive.
4x4Tyke said:
When I make them at home I sometimes put powered union in with some salt and pepper seasoning.
I don't think it is grounds for complaint, but good customer service should have pointed it out, after you had specifically declined the onion rings. Not sure why you are so against them, they are hardly offensive.
Because they turn a meal from something that I enjoy into something I can just about tolerate, and I can smell them on my breath for several hours afterwards, my wife can smell them on me for the next two days.I don't think it is grounds for complaint, but good customer service should have pointed it out, after you had specifically declined the onion rings. Not sure why you are so against them, they are hardly offensive.
People who eat onions (and garlic) either already have or build up a tolerance to them, and don't realise how smelly they are.
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