Nespresso to bean to cup ?
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Turn7

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25,458 posts

247 months

Thursday 23rd May 2019
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Anyone done it and been happy woth both flavour, consistancy and repeatability ?

Nespresso starting to feel expensive......

devnull

3,848 posts

183 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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I have both; I just swing back every few weeks.

I went through a point where everyone figured I had a nespresso machine and everyone kept gifting me capsules at my birthday, Xmas etc, so I have about 200 flopping about the place.

I drink americanos though, so a bean2cup is much better for me, beans are cheaper and they are less terrible on the environment than capsules.

And I still can’t get over the generally rubbery taste of nespressos.

cml24

1,571 posts

173 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Devnull, what's the difference like in terms of ease of use? Clean up time etc?

I don't drink coffee at all, but my partner does and at the moment she has a Nespresso machine she's had for a few years and its on its last legs. She's expressed a preference for something that uses beans next, but I'm worried she'll never use it as it'll be a faff. What with a one year old to look after and other things, not sure its a good idea.

Any thoughts?

number2

5,110 posts

213 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Bean to cup is even easier than Nespresso. Not that either are difficult...

Nespresso = insert capsule for every coffee
Bean to cup = fill with beans and make many coffees

Maintenance is the same... fill with water... empty grounds/capsules... descale occasionally...

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

238 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Do bean to cup machines need to be plumbed into a water feed or can you use a water reservoir?

omniflow

3,669 posts

177 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Did it about 2 months ago - very happy so far.

Nespresso machine was playing up - and we'd just got back from a trip where the hotel had a bean to cup machine at breakfast and the coffee was significantly nicer than Nespresso.

Started looking into bean to cup, ended up with a Jura ENA 8.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

171 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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CaptainSlow said:
Do bean to cup machines need to be plumbed into a water feed or can you use a water reservoir?
Our machine at work has a reservoir, would be better plumbed in alleviating the need for constant refills, but for home use it would be fine.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

171 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Turn7 said:
Nespresso starting to feel expensive......
There's loads of "compatible" capsules around now though. The Aldi ones are supposed to be pretty good and being Aldi half the price of Nespresso. I'm just trying to finish up the dregs of my last Nespresso order and then I'm going to give some of the other brands a go.

I have a Nespresso machine at home and we have a bean to cup at work. They've both got their merits but as I don't drink loads of coffee the Nespresso makes much more sense for me at home.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

238 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Just picked up a selection from Aldi based on this thread. 10 for £1.49.

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 24th May 2019
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Had my bean to cup machine for about 8 years now (delonghi magnifica) still going strong although I drink black coffee so the steam spout has been used about 5 times.

Once you get the machine set up to your taste it's simple to use and easy to keep clean. I'venever liked Nespresso coffee though, it just tastes off to me, and completely unfriendly for the environment, so I may not be the best judge

Tony1963

5,808 posts

188 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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We've been using a Nespresso machine for a few years now, and for the convenience and 'ok' coffee it's fine. Like most of us, though, I've tasted some incredible espresso over the years, and would be looking at buying a decent machine once the Nespresso machine dies. However, I'd hate myself if I bought something that just couldn't produce what I'm after.
It will, hopefully, be an interesting little project to find the right machine without spending a huge sum on it.


The enviro thing about Nespresso makes me laugh. Just do a quick search on how many cans of Coca Cola are produced each year, and then compare that to Nespresso capsules. It's laughable, and I'd bet more Coke cans, bottles and attached plastic end up in the sea and countryside around the world than capsules can ever manage. And if you really are concerned about the environment, don't drink coffee at all!

James P

3,032 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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keirik said:
Had my bean to cup machine for about 8 years now (delonghi magnifica) still going strong although I drink black coffee so the steam spout has been used about 5 times.

Once you get the machine set up to your taste it's simple to use and easy to keep clean. I'venever liked Nespresso coffee though, it just tastes off to me, and completely unfriendly for the environment, so I may not be the best judge
We’ve had ours 7 years now. The grinder unit was replaced last year costing around £25 but apart from that it’s been nothing but Americanos and Latte every morning with maybe some espressos in the evening.

Beans from Costco at around £7/8 per kilo and the machine was £260 through Amazon. If it dies, I can’t think I’d not replace it with another apart from a Jura (and only if I was feeling flush that day).

Engelberger

509 posts

93 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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I only have Americano (black) so you really taste the coffee. Decided to look into getting a bean to cup machine instead of the pods.

After doing tonnes of research, in particular where a expert had real problems deciding what coffee came from a £300 machine and a £10,000 machine, I decided I couldn't be arsed with a Barrista Express and went for a DeLonghi Magnifica 4400 instead as it is fully automatic.

Had it a couple of weeks and after about a dozen coffees going down the sink while experimenting (e.g getting the brew time to exactly 30 seconds) the taste is out of this world. Up there with the best coffee shops local to me and blows the likes of Starbucks (never good), Costa and Nero away.

My Tassismo is staying in the home office but isn't getting used much.

Once you get a machine and see the lovely crema form using decent beans you will wonder why it took so long to get one.


NDA

25,199 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Turn7 said:
Anyone done it and been happy woth both flavour, consistancy and repeatability ?

Nespresso starting to feel expensive......
Nespresso is only for coffee if you have no other choice. smile

I have recently bought a Jura bean to cup machine - it's in a different league to 'pod' coffees. But.... it's not cheap. I have around 2 cups of coffee a day - but the cost is worth it for the quality. Really fresh coffee that tastes as good as you can get.

I am now a coffee snob.

Officially.

RobbieTheTruth

2,817 posts

145 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Tony1963 said:
We've been using a Nespresso machine for a few years now, and for the convenience and 'ok' coffee it's fine. Like most of us, though, I've tasted some incredible espresso over the years, and would be looking at buying a decent machine once the Nespresso machine dies. However, I'd hate myself if I bought something that just couldn't produce what I'm after.
It will, hopefully, be an interesting little project to find the right machine without spending a huge sum on it.


The enviro thing about Nespresso makes me laugh. Just do a quick search on how many cans of Coca Cola are produced each year, and then compare that to Nespresso capsules. It's laughable, and I'd bet more Coke cans, bottles and attached plastic end up in the sea and countryside around the world than capsules can ever manage. And if you really are concerned about the environment, don't drink coffee at all!
I'm in exactly the same boat.

I have Nespresso (both original and Virtuo) and they make a decent 'instant' drink.

I have tasted some beautiful Espresso and I'd like to find a nice, no frills, easy for beginners machine that's not expensive.

Reluctant to spend much in case it becomes a chore and I revert back.....

NDA

25,199 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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RobbieTheTruth said:
I'm in exactly the same boat.

I have Nespresso (both original and Virtuo) and they make a decent 'instant' drink.

I have tasted some beautiful Espresso and I'd like to find a nice, no frills, easy for beginners machine that's not expensive.

Reluctant to spend much in case it becomes a chore and I revert back.....
The bean to cup machines are easier than pod machines to be honest. Just press 'coffee' or 'espresso' and everything is done automatically - the beans get ground and out comes the coffee.

The biggest issue is the cost - but a decent machine will last years.

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,458 posts

247 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Hows that Jura NDA ?

Sy1441

1,283 posts

186 months

Sunday 26th May 2019
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I quite like the variety in Nespresso capsules and switch around from the pure origins to the flavoured ones. I prefer different types of coffee dependant what type of drink I plan to make so went with the Sage Creatista Pro. Did consider a bean to cup also.

NDA

25,199 posts

251 months

Sunday 26th May 2019
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Turn7 said:
Hows that Jura NDA ?
I love it. It's extremely well made and produces excellent coffee.

I was put on to it by a PH'er recently - I hadn't heard of Jura... only the makers like Gaggia and Delonghi (for example). PH also put me on to the Jura Outlet where they sell ex demonstration machines at a discount. The machine I bought had previously made 8 espressos, so they're essentially brand new, but at a discount worth having.

Having a £600+ coffee machine is a ridiculous extravagance, it really is. But, it brings me pleasure to have a top quality coffee in the morning and to have a machine that just needs a single button press to go from fresh beans to mug.


Turn7

Original Poster:

25,458 posts

247 months

Sunday 26th May 2019
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Hmmm, bit of research and Im looking at 2 machines -

De'Longhi Magnifica ESAM 4200 £275

De'Longhi Eletta ECAM 44.660 £489


Must say, Im leaning towards the Eletta......

whats the hive view ?