Middle Eastern cooking tips
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21TonyK

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Sunday 29th December 2019
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Living where I live in the wilds of Devon (well not quite wilds) we are devoid of many cultures especially when it comes to food. We just about have a Chinese takeway and even the local Nepalese has to call themselves "Indian" to avoid putting the locals off!

One cuisine that I really do enjoy and need to improve at home is Middle Eastern, highlighted by a recent meal in a Lebanese restaurant that really made me realise how crap I am at it! I would offer to stage there for a couple of weekends but its a 100 mile round trip for me.

Only relevant book I have is NOPI but I subscribe to it online, read many blogs and and have watched just about every programme on Netflix, Amazon and YouTube.

The only thing I don't do really is make my own yoghurt, tahini and I buy premixed spice mixes. On the assumption I have pretty much every ingredient going or can get it online what tips or tricks do you have?

Cheers all.

Phud

1,421 posts

169 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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The supermarket on old tiverton road exeter, I think is near you, was a good world food shop for middle east.

21TonyK

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Sunday 29th December 2019
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Not near but I am sometimes up that way for work so will try to find it.

Cheers

African Grey

101 posts

99 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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21TonyK said:
The only thing I don't do really is make my own yoghurt, tahini and I buy premixed spice mixes. On the assumption I have pretty much every ingredient going or can get it online what tips or tricks do you have?

Cheers all.
I am from there and still can't cook proper so don't worry. I cook French, Indian, Italian but ME...doesn't work for me, I guess that it is not just the spies but also the herbs. For example in the ME cooking there is use of pomegranate juice.
Watch Youtube , search for a dish that you are after and this might help.

As for tahini, buy it in the super and then dilute it with water until is a bit liquidi (not too much), add salt white paper and lots of lemon juice (~3 lemons). Leave over night in the fridge and test, not enough lemon or salt? Too solid?
You know what to do

Enjoy

21TonyK

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Sunday 29th December 2019
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African Grey said:
21TonyK said:
The only thing I don't do really is make my own yoghurt, tahini and I buy premixed spice mixes. On the assumption I have pretty much every ingredient going or can get it online what tips or tricks do you have?

Cheers all.
I am from there and still can't cook proper so don't worry. I cook French, Indian, Italian but ME...doesn't work for me, I guess that it is not just the spies but also the herbs. For example in the ME cooking there is use of pomegranate juice.
Watch Youtube , search for a dish that you are after and this might help.

As for tahini, buy it in the super and then dilute it with water until is a bit liquidi (not too much), add salt white paper and lots of lemon juice (~3 lemons). Leave over night in the fridge and test, not enough lemon or salt? Too solid?
You know what to do

Enjoy
Pomegranate molasses I have in bulk and tahini in 2.5kg tubs! Only just discovered that tahini paste should be diluted, do you suggest this with 50:50 water and fresh lemon for hummus/hommos? Should I dilute pomegranate molasses with water?

Also, tinned chickpeas? Are they a complete no-no?

Falafel... soaked not cooked chickpeas?

Sorry to bombard but planning dinner for tomorrow!

guillemot

329 posts

191 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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There’s an Ottolenghi inspired Facebook group which would be well worth a look. I love the Sabrina ghayour books (we live on her food pretty much, or adaptations of) as well as YO stuff.

Diana Henry is great and love the food in Khazana by Saliha Mahmood. Ghayour quite often posts recipes on social media platforms.

I don’t have a problem using tinned chick peas, nor do many of the recipes/books I use, but can’t speak for authenticity.

We live in an area where getting hold of stuff can be tricky so tend to bulk buy when I can.

Tamarind paste, tahini, preserved lemons and pomegranate and date molasses are always to be found in our cupboards/fridge, along with rose water.

Dried cranberries can be used in place of barberries and Persian limes (found mine in a large Sainsbury’s) are fab for slow cooking into dishes.

Falafel tends to be best with soaked chickpeas as they stick together a little better than the canned ones - as these are pre cooked they’re a little too soft.

Edited by guillemot on Sunday 29th December 23:12


Edited by guillemot on Sunday 29th December 23:15

21TonyK

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235 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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Thanks for above. Confirmed my thoughts on chickpeas, tried adding more gram flour but that just made them heavy. Will pick up some at the local C&C for next time.

Dried cranberries in place of barberries is a good one, especially as they're going to be cheap over the next few weeks!

I've ordered a pile of used books off Amazon to start me off.

Anyone recommend a specific rice for vermicelli rice? Basmati any good?

thebraketester

15,619 posts

164 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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I’m sure the recipe we have used to make falafel has bulgar wheat in, when I find it I’ll share it because it really is excellent.

As for chick peas, next time you make hummus peel them. It’s a total arse ache but it completely changes the texture of it. If you like Sabra stuff then you’ll appreciate the effort.

ChrisnChris

1,424 posts

248 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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I'll add sumac and saffron to your list.

thebraketester

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164 months

21TonyK

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Monday 30th December 2019
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Thanks,

Been doing a bit of reading on reddit and basmati seems the way to go for vermicelli rice. Only have tinned chickpeas to hand today so that will have to make do.

Job 1... bone a leg of lamb which was actually at 7:15 the other morning. £6 a kilo from Morrisons!


Mobile Chicane

21,883 posts

238 months

Monday 30th December 2019
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Get a decent za 'atar (Zaytoun). It transforms a roast chicken.

RobbieTheTruth

2,817 posts

145 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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African Grey said:
I am from there and still can't cook proper so don't worry. I cook French, Indian, Italian but ME...doesn't work for me, I guess that it is not just the spies but also the herbs. For example in the ME cooking there is use of pomegranate juice.
Watch Youtube , search for a dish that you are after and this might help.

As for tahini, buy it in the super and then dilute it with water until is a bit liquidi (not too much), add salt white paper and lots of lemon juice (~3 lemons). Leave over night in the fridge and test, not enough lemon or salt? Too solid?
You know what to do

Enjoy
Yeah, Tahini is delicious.

I make an 'instant' version all the time. Just pour a bit of the ground sesame paste into a glass bowl, add garlic puree, salt, jif lemon, boiling water and whisk with a fork. Makes a lovely dip or kebab sauce.

21TonyK

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Tuesday 31st December 2019
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RobbieTheTruth said:
Yeah, Tahini is delicious.

I make an 'instant' version all the time. Just pour a bit of the ground sesame paste into a glass bowl, add garlic puree, salt, jif lemon, boiling water and whisk with a fork. Makes a lovely dip or kebab sauce.
Okay, so what you call tahini is as you describe above? To me tahini is the raw (unroasted) sesame paste? I tried a sauce as you describe last night, I liked it and then let it down with about 50% yoghurt which whilst okay was not great.

This is where the confusion starts to creep in between what an authentic dish or recipe describes vs. UK suppliers (or US website rolleyes )

Any help appreciated!



RobbieTheTruth

2,817 posts

145 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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21TonyK said:
Okay, so what you call tahini is as you describe above? To me tahini is the raw (unroasted) sesame paste? I tried a sauce as you describe last night, I liked it and then let it down with about 50% yoghurt which whilst okay was not great.

This is where the confusion starts to creep in between what an authentic dish or recipe describes vs. UK suppliers (or US website rolleyes )

Any help appreciated!
Yeah - you make Tahini Sauce or Tahini Dip out of tahini (sesame paste), water, garlic, lemon juice etc.

Don't worry too much about recipe, just put a big blob of paste in a bowl, a squeeze of lemon, bit of garlic paste then which with boiling water until you get your consistency.

21TonyK

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Tuesday 31st December 2019
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^^^ thanks

Up to the point of yoghurt I was happy with what you describe. Its after that it went a bit wrong.

I'll ignore the yoghurt and try making Labne?

21TonyK

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Sunday 12th January 2020
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Vermicelli rice (went with sumac roasted chicken)

Fry vermicelli in butter and olive oil until golden



Add washed and presoaked rice and continue frying until rice starts to absorb the oil and butter and the vermicelli is dark



Light chicken stock with pinch of saffron



Simmer then cover and turn off the heat until everything absorbed.



Improvements anyone?

Edited by 21TonyK on Sunday 12th January 15:27